From mike at mikerochford.com Mon Mar 5 10:15:51 2018 From: mike at mikerochford.com (Mike Rochford) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 10:15:51 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Networking equipment (cisco switch, Juniper netscreen firewalls) Message-ID: I have a bunch of networking stuff I would like to get rid of. https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/sys/d/ciscoport-switch-5x-juniper/6518390828.html $50 or b/o. Thanks, Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cncole at earthlink.net Tue Mar 13 01:47:49 2018 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 01:47:49 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2BF6E62A9F2D43308D643CB2D43B09CD@E6510a> I can't get my Samsung Android Galaxy phone (S5) or my Galaxy Tab S2 tablet to find or connect to my B&W HP Laserjet 4050 which is on my net (wired and wireless). I can ping it, but no more. The 4050 is my preferred printer for routine stuff. It's fast and economical to operate. Both Androids find and connect to my HP Color Laserjet 4650 easily using either wired or wireless connections via my network. Both printers work fine on all of my my PCs under Ubuntu or Windows (XP and Win 10). The problem is just Android, and just the 4050. Neither the Samsung nor the HP printer apps will find the 4050. Haven't tried Google's cloud print yet, but the 4050 previously worked on that from PCs. Anybody know a trick to solve this Android connection issue? Chuck Cole -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kc0iog at gmail.com Fri Mar 23 21:24:36 2018 From: kc0iog at gmail.com (Brian Wall) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:24:36 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 In-Reply-To: <2BF6E62A9F2D43308D643CB2D43B09CD@E6510a> References: <2BF6E62A9F2D43308D643CB2D43B09CD@E6510a> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:47 AM, Chuck Cole wrote: > I can't get my Samsung Android Galaxy phone (S5) or my Galaxy Tab S2 tablet > to find or connect to my B&W HP Laserjet 4050 which is on my net (wired and > wireless). I can ping it, but no more. The 4050 is my preferred printer > for routine stuff. It's fast and economical to operate. > > Both Androids find and connect to my HP Color Laserjet 4650 easily I think you're giving the 4050 too much credit. That is an OLD printer. I'm not sure it's discoverable in the way that the 4650 is. I'm assuming that since it's networked, it uses a Jetdirect card? You might be able to fiddle with the SNMP settings to get the devices to talk to it. You'll have to forgive my ignorance in Android printing, as I've never done it. If you have the ability, try adding it manually. You can get away with a 4000 driver or even an Laserjet 5 driver, if Android even has such a driver. Brian From cncole at earthlink.net Sat Mar 24 00:58:33 2018 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 00:58:33 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for the comments. The 4050 is a professional grade laserjet that is easy to install and use anywhere but my Androids. I have gotten rid of newer HP inkjets because the drivers harass and beg over buying supplies and giving print format help every time they were used. Perhaps a newer model Laserjet will install and work. A model 4100 is a close match and may fool the installer. -----Original Message----- From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Brian Wall Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 9:25 PM To: TCLUG Mailing List Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:47 AM, Chuck Cole wrote: > I can't get my Samsung Android Galaxy phone (S5) or my Galaxy Tab S2 > tablet to find or connect to my B&W HP Laserjet 4050 which is on my > net (wired and wireless). I can ping it, but no more. The 4050 is my > preferred printer for routine stuff. It's fast and economical to operate. > > Both Androids find and connect to my HP Color Laserjet 4650 easily I think you're giving the 4050 too much credit. That is an OLD printer. I'm not sure it's discoverable in the way that the 4650 is. I'm assuming that since it's networked, it uses a Jetdirect card? You might be able to fiddle with the SNMP settings to get the devices to talk to it. You'll have to forgive my ignorance in Android printing, as I've never done it. If you have the ability, try adding it manually. You can get away with a 4000 driver or even an Laserjet 5 driver, if Android even has such a driver. Brian _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From ryan.coleman at cwis.biz Sat Mar 24 12:05:47 2018 From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 13:05:47 -0400 Subject: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0D575543-F753-4E66-BC40-3E28A7AEC3A5@cwis.biz> The 4000 series LJs came out in the late 1990s. The odds of it being compatible on its own is EXTREMELY slim. Like you?d have better chances running to be POTUS with no financing and winning than you do with a 20-year old network printer. > On Mar 24, 2018, at 1:58 AM, Chuck Cole wrote: > > Thanks for the comments. The 4050 is a professional grade laserjet that is > easy to install and use anywhere but my Androids. I have gotten rid of > newer HP inkjets because the drivers harass and beg over buying supplies and > giving print format help every time they were used. > Perhaps a newer model Laserjet will install and work. A model 4100 is a > close match and may fool the installer. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Brian Wall > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 9:25 PM > To: TCLUG Mailing List > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:47 AM, Chuck Cole wrote: >> I can't get my Samsung Android Galaxy phone (S5) or my Galaxy Tab S2 >> tablet to find or connect to my B&W HP Laserjet 4050 which is on my >> net (wired and wireless). I can ping it, but no more. The 4050 is my >> preferred printer for routine stuff. It's fast and economical to operate. >> >> Both Androids find and connect to my HP Color Laserjet 4650 easily > > I think you're giving the 4050 too much credit. That is an OLD printer. > I'm not sure it's discoverable in the way that the 4650 is. > I'm assuming that since it's networked, it uses a Jetdirect card? You might > be able to fiddle with the SNMP settings to get the devices to talk to it. > > You'll have to forgive my ignorance in Android printing, as I've never done > it. If you have the ability, try adding it manually. You can get away with > a 4000 driver or even an Laserjet 5 driver, if Android even has such a > driver. > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From cncole at earthlink.net Sat Mar 24 14:32:48 2018 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 14:32:48 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 In-Reply-To: <0D575543-F753-4E66-BC40-3E28A7AEC3A5@cwis.biz> Message-ID: <0D46E590B84248C79D1D12AF8FD2548E@E6510a> -----Original Message----- From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Coleman Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 The 4000 series LJs came out in the late 1990s. The odds of it being compatible on its own is EXTREMELY slim. Like you'd have better chances running to be POTUS with no financing and winning than you do with a 20-year old network printer. Reply: FYI The HP LaserJet 4050 series printers were made May-99 Nov-01. It's reliable, fast enough, enough memory, great B&W images, and it's economical to feed and house. Was cheap to buy coming off lease years ago. Seems to install on my cell phone as a newer family model that was made from Dec 2002 until discontinued in June 2005 but I haven't tested that yet... Will later today. > On Mar 24, 2018, at 1:58 AM, Chuck Cole wrote: > > Thanks for the comments. The 4050 is a professional grade laserjet > that is easy to install and use anywhere but my Androids. I have > gotten rid of newer HP inkjets because the drivers harass and beg over > buying supplies and giving print format help every time they were used. > Perhaps a newer model Laserjet will install and work. A model 4100 is > a close match and may fool the installer. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Brian Wall > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 9:25 PM > To: TCLUG Mailing List > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:47 AM, Chuck Cole wrote: >> I can't get my Samsung Android Galaxy phone (S5) or my Galaxy Tab S2 >> tablet to find or connect to my B&W HP Laserjet 4050 which is on my >> net (wired and wireless). I can ping it, but no more. The 4050 is >> my preferred printer for routine stuff. It's fast and economical to operate. >> >> Both Androids find and connect to my HP Color Laserjet 4650 easily > > I think you're giving the 4050 too much credit. That is an OLD printer. > I'm not sure it's discoverable in the way that the 4650 is. > I'm assuming that since it's networked, it uses a Jetdirect card? You > might be able to fiddle with the SNMP settings to get the devices to talk to it. > > You'll have to forgive my ignorance in Android printing, as I've never > done it. If you have the ability, try adding it manually. You can > get away with a 4000 driver or even an Laserjet 5 driver, if Android > even has such a driver. > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From ryan.coleman at cwis.biz Sat Mar 24 15:03:04 2018 From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 16:03:04 -0400 Subject: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 In-Reply-To: <0D46E590B84248C79D1D12AF8FD2548E@E6510a> References: <0D46E590B84248C79D1D12AF8FD2548E@E6510a> Message-ID: <7B4EAEB3-2B5A-40B9-8A71-2169049CB815@cwis.biz> And? you?re point is? It?s tech that existed 5 years before smartphones were even an idea? They are great 600dpi printers. I love them. They?re energy hogs but not nearly as much as the LJIII I support at work. We have three of those. ? Ryan > On Mar 24, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Chuck Cole wrote: > > Reply: > FYI The HP LaserJet 4050 series printers were made May-99 Nov-01. > It's reliable, fast enough, enough memory, great B&W images, and it's > economical to feed and house. Was cheap to buy coming off lease years ago. > Seems to install on my cell phone as a newer family model that was made from > Dec 2002 until discontinued in June 2005 but I haven't tested that yet... > Will later today. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cncole at earthlink.net Sat Mar 24 17:13:16 2018 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 17:13:16 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 In-Reply-To: <7B4EAEB3-2B5A-40B9-8A71-2169049CB815@cwis.biz> Message-ID: <9DF56D0DEA9543C7B64F23867DAB5F7B@E6510a> My point is only that it ain't broke, and I have no need to replace it. Have a setup success that indicates it will work if called another model. Mine, on standby, only draws a few watts, like a night light, wakes quickly on a print request, prints, and goes back to sleep in standby mode. Not an energy hog for me, since I don't print often. _____ From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Coleman Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:03 PM To: TCLUG Mailing List Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 And. you're point is? It's tech that existed 5 years before smartphones were even an idea. They are great 600dpi printers. I love them. They're energy hogs but not nearly as much as the LJIII I support at work. We have three of those. - Ryan On Mar 24, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Chuck Cole wrote: Reply: FYI The HP LaserJet 4050 series printers were made May-99 Nov-01. It's reliable, fast enough, enough memory, great B&W images, and it's economical to feed and house. Was cheap to buy coming off lease years ago. Seems to install on my cell phone as a newer family model that was made from Dec 2002 until discontinued in June 2005 but I haven't tested that yet... Will later today. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hpenner at gmail.com Sat Mar 24 19:29:45 2018 From: hpenner at gmail.com (Harry Penner) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:29:45 +0000 Subject: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 In-Reply-To: <9DF56D0DEA9543C7B64F23867DAB5F7B@E6510a> References: <7B4EAEB3-2B5A-40B9-8A71-2169049CB815@cwis.biz> <9DF56D0DEA9543C7B64F23867DAB5F7B@E6510a> Message-ID: Just put a raspberry pi running CUPS in front of it. That gives you a fairly easy way to support Google cloud printing, iOS printing, etc on your old bulletproof tank. That's how my LaserJet 4+ is set up. :) On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 17:13 Chuck Cole wrote: > My point is only that it ain't broke, and I have no need to replace it. > Have a setup success that indicates it will work if called another model. > Mine, on standby, only draws a few watts, like a night light, wakes > quickly on a print request, prints, and goes back to sleep in standby mode. > Not an energy hog for me, since I don't print often. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto: > tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Coleman > *Sent:* Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:03 PM > > *To:* TCLUG Mailing List > *Subject:* Re: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 > And? you?re point is? It?s tech that existed 5 years before smartphones > were even an idea? > > They are great 600dpi printers. I love them. They?re energy hogs but not > nearly as much as the LJIII I support at work. We have three of those. > > ? > Ryan > > On Mar 24, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Chuck Cole wrote: > > Reply: > FYI The HP LaserJet 4050 series printers were made May-99 Nov-01. > It's reliable, fast enough, enough memory, great B&W images, and it's > economical to feed and house. Was cheap to buy coming off lease years ago. > Seems to install on my cell phone as a newer family model that was made > from > Dec 2002 until discontinued in June 2005 but I haven't tested that yet... > Will later today. > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan.coleman at cwis.biz Sat Mar 24 20:33:30 2018 From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:33:30 -0400 Subject: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 In-Reply-To: References: <7B4EAEB3-2B5A-40B9-8A71-2169049CB815@cwis.biz> <9DF56D0DEA9543C7B64F23867DAB5F7B@E6510a> Message-ID: <300F5F92-1116-42ED-8065-F76CDC39FE94@cwis.biz> Precisely the best solution. $40 gets you a Pi3 with a case and an SD card. ? Ryan > On Mar 24, 2018, at 8:29 PM, Harry Penner wrote: > > Just put a raspberry pi running CUPS in front of it. That gives you a fairly easy way to support Google cloud printing, iOS printing, etc on your old bulletproof tank. That's how my LaserJet 4+ is set up. :) > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 17:13 Chuck Cole > wrote: > My point is only that it ain't broke, and I have no need to replace it. Have a setup success that indicates it will work if called another model. > Mine, on standby, only draws a few watts, like a night light, wakes quickly on a print request, prints, and goes back to sleep in standby mode. > Not an energy hog for me, since I don't print often. > > From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org ] On Behalf Of Ryan Coleman > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:03 PM > > To: TCLUG Mailing List > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 > And? you?re point is? It?s tech that existed 5 years before smartphones were even an idea? > > They are great 600dpi printers. I love them. They?re energy hogs but not nearly as much as the LJIII I support at work. We have three of those. > > ? > Ryan > >> On Mar 24, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Chuck Cole > wrote: >> >> Reply: >> FYI The HP LaserJet 4050 series printers were made May-99 Nov-01. >> It's reliable, fast enough, enough memory, great B&W images, and it's >> economical to feed and house. Was cheap to buy coming off lease years ago. >> Seems to install on my cell phone as a newer family model that was made from >> Dec 2002 until discontinued in June 2005 but I haven't tested that yet... >> Will later today. > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cncole at earthlink.net Sat Mar 24 20:56:36 2018 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 20:56:36 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 In-Reply-To: <300F5F92-1116-42ED-8065-F76CDC39FE94@cwis.biz> Message-ID: <617E421A8FFB45EDB92D4E43A3840BA0@E6510a> Interesting idea. I have several Pi's sitting idle. _____ From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Coleman Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 8:34 PM To: TCLUG Mailing List Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 Precisely the best solution. $40 gets you a Pi3 with a case and an SD card. - Ryan On Mar 24, 2018, at 8:29 PM, Harry Penner wrote: Just put a raspberry pi running CUPS in front of it. That gives you a fairly easy way to support Google cloud printing, iOS printing, etc on your old bulletproof tank. That's how my LaserJet 4+ is set up. :) On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 17:13 Chuck Cole wrote: My point is only that it ain't broke, and I have no need to replace it. Have a setup success that indicates it will work if called another model. Mine, on standby, only draws a few watts, like a night light, wakes quickly on a print request, prints, and goes back to sleep in standby mode. Not an energy hog for me, since I don't print often. _____ From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Coleman Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:03 PM To: TCLUG Mailing List Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 And. you're point is? It's tech that existed 5 years before smartphones were even an idea. They are great 600dpi printers. I love them. They're energy hogs but not nearly as much as the LJIII I support at work. We have three of those. - Ryan On Mar 24, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Chuck Cole wrote: Reply: FYI The HP LaserJet 4050 series printers were made May-99 Nov-01. It's reliable, fast enough, enough memory, great B&W images, and it's economical to feed and house. Was cheap to buy coming off lease years ago. Seems to install on my cell phone as a newer family model that was made from Dec 2002 until discontinued in June 2005 but I haven't tested that yet... Will later today. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cncole at earthlink.net Thu Mar 29 16:45:39 2018 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:45:39 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 solved In-Reply-To: <617E421A8FFB45EDB92D4E43A3840BA0@E6510a> Message-ID: <806B29F63143480C9CBA689F6267B657@E6510a> FYI.. The best solution seems to be the PrinterShare app. This Android app has drivers for several thousand printers and includes most brands. This and includes the HP 4050 B&W and 4650 color laserjets I have. So far, this finds my networked printers with no fuss, and lets me select either and its advanced options. Not sure I'll need the extra features of their $4.95 "premium version". _____ From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Cole Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 8:57 PM To: 'TCLUG Mailing List' Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 Interesting idea. I have several Pi's sitting idle. _____ From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Coleman Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 8:34 PM To: TCLUG Mailing List Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 Precisely the best solution. $40 gets you a Pi3 with a case and an SD card. - Ryan On Mar 24, 2018, at 8:29 PM, Harry Penner wrote: Just put a raspberry pi running CUPS in front of it. That gives you a fairly easy way to support Google cloud printing, iOS printing, etc on your old bulletproof tank. That's how my LaserJet 4+ is set up. :) On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 17:13 Chuck Cole wrote: My point is only that it ain't broke, and I have no need to replace it. Have a setup success that indicates it will work if called another model. Mine, on standby, only draws a few watts, like a night light, wakes quickly on a print request, prints, and goes back to sleep in standby mode. Not an energy hog for me, since I don't print often. _____ From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Coleman Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:03 PM To: TCLUG Mailing List Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT? Android printer problem w/ HP 4050 And. you're point is? It's tech that existed 5 years before smartphones were even an idea. They are great 600dpi printers. I love them. They're energy hogs but not nearly as much as the LJIII I support at work. We have three of those. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: