From o1bigtenor at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 07:36:25 2019
From: o1bigtenor at gmail.com (o1bigtenor)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 07:36:25 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] security cameras
Message-ID: <CAPpdf5-j=Fnc3P1-_oe2uWARaFo4rMgB7geGKQhibsy4hEgNng@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings

Looking to use an outdoor security cam for livestock observation.

All I can find is stuff rated for use with M$.

Has anyone out there played with security cams - - - I'd love to know
- - - but I sure want to run them on *nix - - - not going to buy a win
box just for a security camera.

TIA

Dee

From rsinland at gvtel.com  Sat Feb  9 08:01:33 2019
From: rsinland at gvtel.com (Robert Sinland)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 08:01:33 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] security cameras
In-Reply-To: <CAPpdf5-j=Fnc3P1-_oe2uWARaFo4rMgB7geGKQhibsy4hEgNng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPpdf5-j=Fnc3P1-_oe2uWARaFo4rMgB7geGKQhibsy4hEgNng@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ccdfa4a8-8203-63f8-dadf-8dec08b2b83c@gvtel.com>

I have used this with good luck on IP cams.

https://felenasoft.com/xeoma/en/

2/9/19 7:36 AM, o1bigtenor wrote:
> Greetings
>
> Looking to use an outdoor security cam for livestock observation.
>
> All I can find is stuff rated for use with M$.
>
> Has anyone out there played with security cams - - - I'd love to know
> - - - but I sure want to run them on *nix - - - not going to buy a win
> box just for a security camera.
>
> TIA
>
> Dee
> _______________________________________________
> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list


From ryan.coleman at cwis.biz  Sat Feb  9 12:46:06 2019
From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 12:46:06 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] security cameras
In-Reply-To: <CAPpdf5-j=Fnc3P1-_oe2uWARaFo4rMgB7geGKQhibsy4hEgNng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPpdf5-j=Fnc3P1-_oe2uWARaFo4rMgB7geGKQhibsy4hEgNng@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48BCA6F2-168D-43C5-99BA-3EB8D564B27F@cwis.biz>

You definitely not looking very far. 

You want something that is ONVIF compatible. Then you can you run the gambit.

Also ExacqVIsion’s platform is built for Debian. We use it at work running on Ubuntu.

—
Ryan

> On Feb 9, 2019, at 7:36 AM, o1bigtenor <o1bigtenor at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Looking to use an outdoor security cam for livestock observation.
> 
> All I can find is stuff rated for use with M$.
> 
> Has anyone out there played with security cams - - - I'd love to know
> - - - but I sure want to run them on *nix - - - not going to buy a win
> box just for a security camera.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Dee
> _______________________________________________
> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list


From n0nas at amsat.org  Sat Feb  9 23:40:45 2019
From: n0nas at amsat.org (Doug Reed)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 23:40:45 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 170, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1549735201.7631.tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
References: <mailman.1.1549735201.7631.tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Message-ID: <CAL+RLOTD2SkEVQuYm-Z1uY1=kxG0xWsqMfX_pbXwnSvOxRkaEQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dee.

I'm assuming you plan to put the camera on your home network without
having remote Internet access. That is my personal preference since I
don't trust most vendor-provided remote solutions. You shouldn't have
much trouble with just using your browser to display the video. Many
or most IP cameras can provide something that is compatible.

You didn't mention your camera. The biggest problem I've found is the
operating temperature range. Most vendors don't know what "outdoor"
means in Minnesota. A fairly low cost mini-dome PTZ camera is the
Escam PVR002. It is rated to -30C, -20F. If you want a larger
traditional dome PTZ camera with lots of zoom, you may need to make
sure it is a dome enclosure that includes a heater to make it work in
the cold Minnesota weather. Fixed cameras are easier to find.

And I'm sure you will want Power Over Ethernet POE. I'm sure you don't
want to run AC power for your remote camera. If the camera or network
switch doesn't handle POE, then you can find POE adapter cables to
use.

Good luck!  Doug.


-- 
Tomorrow is always better because it means you lived through today.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."    Benjamin
Franklin

From bgilbertson at rrt.net  Sun Feb 10 21:13:29 2019
From: bgilbertson at rrt.net (Robert Gilbertson)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 21:13:29 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] security cameras
Message-ID: <5c60e859.69c3.5cd43700.54dc0397@rrt.net>

Dee,

Probably more than you are looking for, but several years ago I used a 
Mobotix camera for a project.
I think it was the D26.
https://www.mobotix.com/en/products/outdoor-cameras
Camera uses a Linux kernel as its OS.
SDKs, some BSD licensed, are available if more than provided app is 
needed.
http://developer.mobotix.com/
I think I purchased from ABPtech in Dallas.
https://www.abptech.com/step-step-guide-setting-mobotix-ip-camera-be-viewed-remotely.html

Regards,
Bob




On Saturday 09/02/2019 at 7:37 am, o1bigtenor  wrote:
> Greetings
>
> Looking to use an outdoor security cam for livestock observation.
>
> All I can find is stuff rated for use with M$.
>
> Has anyone out there played with security cams - - - I'd love to know
> - - - but I sure want to run them on *nix - - - not going to buy a win
> box just for a security camera.
>
> TIA
>
> Dee
> _______________________________________________
> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list

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From o1bigtenor at gmail.com  Mon Feb 11 06:24:26 2019
From: o1bigtenor at gmail.com (o1bigtenor)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 06:24:26 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] security cameras
In-Reply-To: <5c60e859.69c3.5cd43700.54dc0397@rrt.net>
References: <5c60e859.69c3.5cd43700.54dc0397@rrt.net>
Message-ID: <CAPpdf58=o9v0By8Cbp8avBrUUKJcVecq-5zUU7FZ7Um3VXUnoA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 9:17 PM Robert Gilbertson <bgilbertson at rrt.net> wrote:
>
> Dee,
>
> Probably more than you are looking for, but several years ago I used a Mobotix camera for a project.
> I think it was the D26.
> https://www.mobotix.com/en/products/outdoor-cameras
> Camera uses a Linux kernel as its OS.
> SDKs, some BSD licensed, are available if more than provided app is needed.
> http://developer.mobotix.com/
> I think I purchased from ABPtech in Dallas.
> https://www.abptech.com/step-step-guide-setting-mobotix-ip-camera-be-viewed-remotely.html
>

Thanking those that have shared their experiences and ideas!!

Dee

From mbmiller+l at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 20:04:47 2019
From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 20:04:47 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [tclug-list] downloading SVG files and making a single PDF
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1902131932410.9128@taxahome2>

I wanted to buy a music book with the songs from Andrew Lloyd Webber's 
Jesus Christ Superstar, but the first thing that came up in my search was 
a web page with 141 SVG files, probably including everything I wanted. 
But 141 SVG files would be a little inconvenient to work with, so I 
thought I'd convert them to a single PDF file.  There were a few Linuxy 
tricks to it, so I thought I'd share it here.

To convert SVG to PDF, I used inkscape...

sudo apt install inkscape

inkscape --without-gui --file=infile.svg --export-pdf=outfile.pdf

...but that was giving an annoying warning until I ran this:

sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk-module

Download the 141 SVG files:

for I in {0..140} ; do wget -nv https://musescore.com/static/musescore/scoredata/gen/1/5/3/3850351/1fc07f50b82c55710a959b344e84619dc45b25be/score_${I}.svg ; done

Use inkscape to convert the SVG to PDF, preserving the vector format:

for I in {0..140} ; do echo -ne "$I\r" ; inkscape --without-gui --file=score_${I}.svg --export-pdf=score_${I}.pdf ; done

We can remove the SVG files:

rm score_*.svg

zero-pad the numbers in the PDF filenames so that they are in proper order 
for globbing in the pdfunite command:

rename 's/_(\d)\./_0$1\./' score_?.pdf
rename 's/_(\d\d)\./_0$1\./' score_??.pdf

To combine the 141 PDF files into one 141-page PDF, I tried pdftk first, 
but it was failing with errors, so I used pdfunite from the poppler-utils 
package.  If you don't have pdfunite, you can install it:

sudo apt install poppler-utils

pdfunite score_*.pdf Jesus_Christ_Superstar.pdf

Now we can remove the individual PDF files:

rm score_*.pdf

I'm glad I discovered pdfunite.  It's easier to use than pdftk for merging 
and it worked where pdftk failed.

Best,

Mike

From iznogoud at nobelware.com  Thu Feb 14 08:21:19 2019
From: iznogoud at nobelware.com (Iznogoud)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:21:19 +0000
Subject: [tclug-list] downloading SVG files and making a single PDF
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1902131932410.9128@taxahome2>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1902131932410.9128@taxahome2>
Message-ID: <20190214142119.GA7510@nobelware.com>

Double wow!

1. This is really useful, and thanks for sharing. One of the few very useful
things I have seen on this list in a while.

2. I was very surprised that you were able to just find digital versions of
the score, given that there must be somebody who holds its copyrights and
would want profits. After all, the dude is still alive.


From woodbrian77 at gmail.com  Fri Feb 15 13:25:39 2019
From: woodbrian77 at gmail.com (Brian Wood)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:25:39 -0800
Subject: [tclug-list] New laptop
Message-ID: <CABWFOjvq+ySnX6qH8FtXBxK6hqs5VZfBcHn22mUeDcCcjqhM6w@mail.gmail.com>

Shalom

I'm looking for a new laptop.    I agree with those on this page
that want home, end, page up and page down keys:
https://www.dell.com/community/Laptops-General-Read-Only/Lack-of-PgUp-PgDown-Home-End-keys-PAIN/td-p/5018484

I don't want a Lenovo.  I want at least 6G of ram and 256 ssd.  Any
suggestions?  Thanks in advance.


Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - Enjoying programming again.
https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards/graphs/traffic
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From woodbrian77 at gmail.com  Fri Feb 15 13:29:10 2019
From: woodbrian77 at gmail.com (Brian Wood)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:29:10 -0800
Subject: [tclug-list] New laptop
In-Reply-To: <CABWFOjvq+ySnX6qH8FtXBxK6hqs5VZfBcHn22mUeDcCcjqhM6w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWFOjvq+ySnX6qH8FtXBxK6hqs5VZfBcHn22mUeDcCcjqhM6w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABWFOjtqdZpqQsRUwS+xrCyYrtqK-rocuN=PkcKCSuA_VzB8Lw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:25 AM Brian Wood <woodbrian77 at gmail.com> wrote:

Also, I want something around 14 inches size, maybe smaller, but think it's
unlikely to have keyboard I like if it's smaller.
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From rhayman at pureice.com  Fri Feb 15 17:21:26 2019
From: rhayman at pureice.com (r hayman)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 17:21:26 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] New laptop
In-Reply-To: <CABWFOjtqdZpqQsRUwS+xrCyYrtqK-rocuN=PkcKCSuA_VzB8Lw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWFOjvq+ySnX6qH8FtXBxK6hqs5VZfBcHn22mUeDcCcjqhM6w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <61e5af5adf840f4959ccd6c003dddb535013ab78.camel@pureice.com>

In Feb of 2017 I bought a Dell XPS-15, 32G RAM, 4KUHD 15", 1TB PCIe SSD
The first thing I did after booting Windows 10 and running full
diagnostics was replace the PCIe SSD with a Samsung 960Pro 1TB and the
Killer AC 1535 BT/WiFi card with an Intel card (can't remember the
model) for better throughput and better driver support at that time. 
Having replaced the PCIe SSD allowed me to re-install the Win10 SSD for
low level firmware updates from Dell that wouldn't be coming from any
Linux repo. I've been running Ubuntu 16.04 on it ever since - even the
TB16 docking station works with Ubuntu. I hear that Ubuntu 18.04
doesn't run well on this laptop, yet.
If this small laptop is too large (14.1x9.3x0.6), Dell does sell the
XPS-13 (many similar specs to the XPS-15), and they used to sell a
developers edition preinstalled with (can't remember the distro) Linux.
When I did my research, I spent quite a bit of time creating a
spreadsheet to compare the following:currently owned 2008 Apple MBPro -
reference #1currently owned 2007 Lenovo T61p - reference #2currently
owned 2010 Lenovo W500 - reference #32015 Apple MBPro MJLU2xx/A
(11,4)2016 Apple MBProDell XPS-15 9560 max buildDell XPS-15 9560 min
build, aftermarket upgradeHP Spectre x360 max buildHP Spectre x360 min
build, aftermarket upgradeAsus Zenbook UX510VWLenovo Yoga 910Lenovo X1
Carbon 4th GenLenovo T5604 different builds from min to max of the
Lenovo P50
I settled on the Dell XPS-15 9560 max build for $2500 because it had
verified Linux installs and what it took to get Linux working on it
(very little), it had 1-SD, 1-HDMI 1.4, 2-USB3, and 1-TB3 port and with
the 97Whr battery, I get 6-8 hours of battery life. The two monitors I
use with this laptop are a 32" 4KUHD and a 40" 4KUHD, depending on
where I plug into which docking station. 
I've been very happy with this laptop, the Samsung 960 Pro is 400-1100
MB/s faster reads and writes over the OEM PCIe SSD, so this machine
boots to a usable logged in system in ~20 seconds, maybe less.
Hope that helps, Oh, and the keyboard on the Dell XPS-15 9560 has the
keys you listed
On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 11:29 -0800, Brian Wood wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:25 AM Brian Wood <woodbrian77 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> Also, I want something around 14 inches size, maybe smaller, but
> think it's 
> unlikely to have keyboard I like if it's smaller.
> 
> _______________________________________________TCLUG Mailing List -
> Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesotatclug-list at mn-linux.org
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From ryan.coleman at cwis.biz  Fri Feb 15 23:22:18 2019
From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 23:22:18 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] New laptop
In-Reply-To: <61e5af5adf840f4959ccd6c003dddb535013ab78.camel@pureice.com>
References: <CABWFOjvq+ySnX6qH8FtXBxK6hqs5VZfBcHn22mUeDcCcjqhM6w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <2AE6D825-C982-40B8-B248-B6D4FBBC9461@cwis.biz>

At what cost was this computer, docking station and its upgrades?

> On Feb 15, 2019, at 5:21 PM, r hayman <rhayman at pureice.com> wrote:
> 
> In Feb of 2017 I bought a Dell XPS-15, 32G RAM, 4KUHD 15", 1TB PCIe SSD The first thing I did after booting Windows 10 and running full diagnostics was replace the PCIe SSD with a Samsung 960Pro 1TB and the Killer AC 1535 BT/WiFi card with an Intel card (can't remember the model) for better throughput and better driver support at that time. 
> 
> Having replaced the PCIe SSD allowed me to re-install the Win10 SSD for low level firmware updates from Dell that wouldn't be coming from any Linux repo. I've been running Ubuntu 16.04 on it ever since - even the TB16 docking station works with Ubuntu. I hear that Ubuntu 18.04 doesn't run well on this laptop, yet.
> 
> If this small laptop is too large (14.1x9.3x0.6), Dell does sell the XPS-13 (many similar specs to the XPS-15), and they used to sell a developers edition preinstalled with (can't remember the distro) Linux.
> 
> When I did my research, I spent quite a bit of time creating a spreadsheet to compare the following:
> currently owned 2008 Apple MBPro - reference #1
> currently owned 2007 Lenovo T61p - reference #2
> currently owned 2010 Lenovo W500 - reference #3
> 2015 Apple MBPro MJLU2xx/A (11,4)
> 2016 Apple MBPro
> Dell XPS-15 9560 max build
> Dell XPS-15 9560 min build, aftermarket upgrade
> HP Spectre x360 max build
> HP Spectre x360 min build, aftermarket upgrade
> Asus Zenbook UX510VW
> Lenovo Yoga 910
> Lenovo X1 Carbon 4th Gen
> Lenovo T560
> 4 different builds from min to max of the Lenovo P50
> 
> I settled on the Dell XPS-15 9560 max build for $2500 because it had verified Linux installs and what it took to get Linux working on it (very little), it had 1-SD, 1-HDMI 1.4, 2-USB3, and 1-TB3 port and with the 97Whr battery, I get 6-8 hours of battery life. The two monitors I use with this laptop are a 32" 4KUHD and a 40" 4KUHD, depending on where I plug into which docking station.
> 
> I've been very happy with this laptop, the Samsung 960 Pro is 400-1100 MB/s faster reads and writes over the OEM PCIe SSD, so this machine boots to a usable logged in system in ~20 seconds, maybe less.
> 
> Hope that helps, Oh, and the keyboard on the Dell XPS-15 9560 has the keys you listed
> 
> On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 11:29 -0800, Brian Wood wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:25 AM Brian Wood <woodbrian77 at gmail.com <mailto:woodbrian77 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Also, I want something around 14 inches size, maybe smaller, but think it's 
>> unlikely to have keyboard I like if it's smaller.
>> _______________________________________________
>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org <mailto:tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list <http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list>
>> 
> _______________________________________________
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From rhayman at pureice.com  Sat Feb 16 10:00:37 2019
From: rhayman at pureice.com (r hayman)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 10:00:37 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] New laptop
In-Reply-To: <2AE6D825-C982-40B8-B248-B6D4FBBC9461@cwis.biz>
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The max build XPS-15 9560 2 years ago was $2500, the min build was
$1700 according to my spreadsheet.
The Samsung 960 Pro 1TB PCIe M.2 SSD 2 years ago was ~$700
The Intel BT/WiFi card 2 years ago was ~$30
The Dell TB16 Docking Station 2 years ago was ~$200
The 960 Pro was the top of the line back then, so this was the most
expensive replacement SSD at the time. 
The OEM was a Toshiba SSD on my XPS-15.
Also note, that 2 years ago there was not available an external
enclosure for PCIe M.2 SSDs, so I literally have had to swap the SSD
cards to upgrade firmware, there are incompatible PCIe SSD card
external enclosures - the M.2 has a slightly different offset of the
gap in the card pins that the non-M.2 PCIe cards.
If you call Dell and speak to a sales rep, they can usually find some
type of discount for you that may not be available vie the web store,
that's been my experience.
On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 23:22 -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> At what cost was this computer, docking station and its upgrades?
> 
> > On Feb 15, 2019, at 5:21 PM, r hayman <rhayman at pureice.com> wrote:
> > 
> > In Feb of 2017 I bought a Dell XPS-15, 32G RAM, 4KUHD 15", 1TB PCIe
> > SSD The first thing I did after booting Windows 10 and running full
> > diagnostics was replace the PCIe SSD with a Samsung 960Pro 1TB and
> > the Killer AC 1535 BT/WiFi card with an Intel card (can't remember
> > the model) for better throughput and better driver support at that
> > time. 
> > 
> > Having replaced the PCIe SSD allowed me to re-install the Win10 SSD
> > for low level firmware updates from Dell that wouldn't be coming
> > from any Linux repo. I've been running Ubuntu 16.04 on it ever
> > since - even the TB16 docking station works with Ubuntu. I hear
> > that Ubuntu 18.04 doesn't run well on this laptop, yet.
> > 
> > If this small laptop is too large (14.1x9.3x0.6), Dell does sell
> > the XPS-13 (many similar specs to the XPS-15), and they used to
> > sell a developers edition preinstalled with (can't remember the
> > distro) Linux.
> > 
> > When I did my research, I spent quite a bit of time creating a
> > spreadsheet to compare the following:
> > currently owned 2008 Apple MBPro - reference #1
> > currently owned 2007 Lenovo T61p - reference #2
> > currently owned 2010 Lenovo W500 - reference #3
> > 2015 Apple MBPro MJLU2xx/A (11,4)
> > 2016 Apple MBPro
> > Dell XPS-15 9560 max build
> > Dell XPS-15 9560 min build, aftermarket upgrade
> > HP Spectre x360 max build
> > HP Spectre x360 min build, aftermarket upgrade
> > Asus Zenbook UX510VW
> > Lenovo Yoga 910
> > Lenovo X1 Carbon 4th Gen
> > Lenovo T560
> > 4 different builds from min to max of the Lenovo P50
> > 
> > I settled on the Dell XPS-15 9560 max build for $2500 because it
> > had verified Linux installs and what it took to get Linux working
> > on it (very little), it had 1-SD, 1-HDMI 1.4, 2-USB3, and 1-TB3
> > port and with the 97Whr battery, I get 6-8 hours of battery life.
> > The two monitors I use with this laptop are a 32" 4KUHD and a 40"
> > 4KUHD, depending on where I plug into which docking station.
> > 
> > I've been very happy with this laptop, the Samsung 960 Pro is 400-
> > 1100 MB/s faster reads and writes over the OEM PCIe SSD, so this
> > machine boots to a usable logged in system in ~20 seconds, maybe
> > less.
> > 
> > Hope that helps, Oh, and the keyboard on the Dell XPS-15 9560 has
> > the keys you listed
> > 
> > On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 11:29 -0800, Brian Wood wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:25 AM Brian Wood 
> > > m> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Also, I want something around 14 inches size, maybe smaller, but
> > > think it's 
> > > unlikely to have keyboard I like if it's smaller.
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From woodbrian77 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 17 14:16:06 2019
From: woodbrian77 at gmail.com (Brian Wood)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:16:06 -0800
Subject: [tclug-list] New laptop
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rhayman writes:


> In Feb of 2017 I bought a Dell XPS-15, 32G RAM, 4KUHD 15", 1TB PCIe SSD
> The first thing I did after booting Windows 10 and running full
> diagnostics was replace the PCIe SSD with a Samsung 960Pro 1TB and the
> Killer AC 1535 BT/WiFi card with an Intel card (can't remember the
> model) for better throughput and better driver support at that time.
> Having replaced the PCIe SSD allowed me to re-install the Win10 SSD for
> low level firmware updates from Dell that wouldn't be coming from any
> Linux repo.


That's good to know, but I'm wondering why you didn't do a dual boot.
It seems that would have allowed you to get those updates more than
once.  In the past, I've replaced Windows on a laptop with Linux.  That's
been great until I want to sell the laptop.  Then I take a hit -- so with
this one I'm planning to dual boot it.


> I've been running Ubuntu 16.04 on it ever since - even the
> TB16 docking station works with Ubuntu. I hear that Ubuntu 18.04
> doesn't run well on this laptop, yet.
> If this small laptop is too large (14.1x9.3x0.6), Dell does sell the
> XPS-13 (many similar specs to the XPS-15), and they used to sell a
> developers edition preinstalled with (can't remember the distro) Linux.
> When I did my research, I spent quite a bit of time creating a
> spreadsheet to compare the following:currently owned 2008 Apple MBPro -
> reference #1currently owned 2007 Lenovo T61p - reference #2currently
> owned 2010 Lenovo W500 - reference #32015 Apple MBPro MJLU2xx/A
> (11,4)2016 Apple MBProDell XPS-15 9560 max buildDell XPS-15 9560 min
> build, aftermarket upgradeHP Spectre x360 max buildHP Spectre x360 min
> build, aftermarket upgradeAsus Zenbook UX510VWLenovo Yoga 910Lenovo X1
> Carbon 4th GenLenovo T5604 different builds from min to max of the
> Lenovo P50
> I settled on the Dell XPS-15 9560 max build for $2500 because it had
> verified Linux installs and what it took to get Linux working on it
> (very little), it had 1-SD, 1-HDMI 1.4, 2-USB3, and 1-TB3 port and with
> the 97Whr battery, I get 6-8 hours of battery life. The two monitors I
> use with this laptop are a 32" 4KUHD and a 40" 4KUHD, depending on
> where I plug into which docking station.
> I've been very happy with this laptop, the Samsung 960 Pro is 400-1100
> MB/s faster reads and writes over the OEM PCIe SSD, so this machine
> boots to a usable logged in system in ~20 seconds, maybe less.
> Hope that helps, Oh, and the keyboard on the Dell XPS-15 9560 has the
> keys you listed
>
>
Yeah, I've looked at scores of them and tend to forget what it was
about them that I didn't like.  I'm interested in two Dell laptops at the
moment.  The keyboards aren't great in my opinion, but I think I could
live with them.  I don't like the weight/size of the 15" plus laptops, but
there aren't many 14" laptops with keyboards I like anymore.  I was
reading an article about maintaining laptops that said to open them
up once a year and clean them with compressed air or cotton swabs.
Does anyone do that?

The cheaper of the two I'm looking at is more than I've spent on any
computer and the other one is a lot more.  I'm not sure if I should
try to do more with less and buy the cheaper one.  Or work up my
courage to buy the more expensive one.


Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - In G-d we trust.
https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards
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From kaze0010 at umn.edu  Sun Feb 17 16:33:36 2019
From: kaze0010 at umn.edu (Haudy Kazemi)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 16:33:36 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] New laptop
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Have you heard of the Purism Librem devices/laptops/phones? They're
specifically built with freedom, privacy, and ownership principles in mind.
Also I see dedicated keys and hardware switches. Here is one of their
laptops:
https://puri.sm/products/librem-15/

Included Linux based OS:
https://pureos.net

BTW, are all Lenovo products out of consideration? If it is because of
country of manufacture (China)...it's going to be hard to avoid tech
products that have no connections to that country all.

Although owned by Lenovo, IME the business class Thinkpad T and X series is
still pretty true to its IBM roots.

Coreboot is available for the X230 per links at end of this page:
https://www.coreboot.org/users.html

Also:https://libreboot.org/docs/hardware/

If you want a tablet type laptop, look into the Fujitsu T902. It can handle
16 gb ram and 2x 2.5" SSD (if you replace the optical drive).



On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 13:26 Brian Wood <woodbrian77 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Shalom
>
> I'm looking for a new laptop.    I agree with those on this page
> that want home, end, page up and page down keys:
>
> https://www.dell.com/community/Laptops-General-Read-Only/Lack-of-PgUp-PgDown-Home-End-keys-PAIN/td-p/5018484
>
> I don't want a Lenovo.  I want at least 6G of ram and 256 ssd.  Any
> suggestions?  Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Brian
> Ebenezer Enterprises - Enjoying programming again.
> https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards/graphs/traffic
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From woodbrian77 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 24 13:46:01 2019
From: woodbrian77 at gmail.com (Brian Wood)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 14:46:01 -0500
Subject: [tclug-list] New laptop
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On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 3:16 PM Brian Wood <woodbrian77 at gmail.com> wrote:

> rhayman writes:
>
>
>> In Feb of 2017 I bought a Dell XPS-15, 32G RAM, 4KUHD 15", 1TB PCIe SSD
>> The first thing I did after booting Windows 10 and running full
>> diagnostics was replace the PCIe SSD with a Samsung 960Pro 1TB and the
>> Killer AC 1535 BT/WiFi card with an Intel card (can't remember the
>> model) for better throughput and better driver support at that time.
>> Having replaced the PCIe SSD allowed me to re-install the Win10 SSD for
>> low level firmware updates from Dell that wouldn't be coming from any
>> Linux repo.
>
>
> That's good to know, but I'm wondering why you didn't do a dual boot.
> It seems that would have allowed you to get those updates more than
> once.  In the past, I've replaced Windows on a laptop with Linux.  That's
> been great until I want to sell the laptop.  Then I take a hit -- so with
> this one I'm planning to dual boot it.
>

I received a new Dell laptop a few days ago and am liking it.  The only
thing I'm not happy with is the keyboard.  I'm thinking of trying to map
the 'Alt' and 'Ctrl' keys to the right of the space bar to be 'Home' and
'end' keys.

Rather than dual booting it, I installed Virtualbox and a Manjaro guest.
That was fairly easy to do, but I'm not able to increase the number of
CPUs to more than one for that.  I still may dual boot it.  Does anyone
run Linux primarily as a guest VM  on Windows?

One thing I did with the VM was test my software.  My back tier runs on
FreeBSD on a separate machine.  On this laptop I ran my middle tier
on Manjaro and the front tier on Windows.  It took me a few hours to get
everything installed and configured to test that configuration, but once I
did, the test was easy.


Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - In G-d we trust.
https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards
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From rhayman at pureice.com  Mon Feb 25 17:21:32 2019
From: rhayman at pureice.com (r hayman)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 17:21:32 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] New laptop
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> > That's good to know, but I'm wondering why you didn't do a dual
> > boot.

I didn't care to waste the space on my SSD with Windows since I boot
into Windows less than one time per year on this laptop.
(And I've been an unabashed self-proclaimed Microsoft-hater since
1988)  However, since Satya Nadella's tenure, I've softened that a wee
bit - I do really like Visual Studio Code for certain types of editing
tasks... but I still hate Windows and MS Office, and ...

On my 2009 MBP, I boot into Windows (Virtualbox guest) maybe 3-5 times
per year when I need to run VCDS to do stuff through the OBD II port of
my Audi(s).



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From jus at krytosvirus.com  Wed Feb 27 16:55:48 2019
From: jus at krytosvirus.com (Justin Krejci)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 16:55:48 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] downloading SVG files and making a single PDF
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 Very nice write up. I use pdfsam (PDF Split And Merge) to combine
multiple PDFs into one. It is a very simple java based GUI that works
well for me.

On 2019-02-13 20:04, Mike Miller wrote: 

> I wanted to buy a music book with the songs from Andrew Lloyd Webber's Jesus Christ Superstar, but the first thing that came up in my search was a web page with 141 SVG files, probably including everything I wanted. But 141 SVG files would be a little inconvenient to work with, so I thought I'd convert them to a single PDF file. There were a few Linuxy tricks to it, so I thought I'd share it here.
> 
> To convert SVG to PDF, I used inkscape...
> 
> sudo apt install inkscape
> 
> inkscape -⁠-⁠without-⁠gui -⁠-⁠file=infile.svg -⁠-⁠export-⁠pdf=outfile.pdf
> 
> ...but that was giving an annoying warning until I ran this:
> 
> sudo apt-⁠get install libcanberra-⁠gtk-⁠module
> 
> Download the 141 SVG files:
> 
> for I in {0..140} ; do wget -⁠nv https://musescore.com/static/musescore/scoredata/gen/1/5/3/3850351/1fc07f50b82c55710a959b344e84619dc45b25be/score_${I}.svg [1] ; done
> 
> Use inkscape to convert the SVG to PDF, preserving the vector format:
> 
> for I in {0..140} ; do echo -⁠ne "$I\r" ; inkscape -⁠-⁠without-⁠gui -⁠-⁠file=score_${I}.svg -⁠-⁠export-⁠pdf=score_${I}.pdf ; done
> 
> We can remove the SVG files:
> 
> rm score_*.svg
> 
> zero-pad the numbers in the PDF filenames so that they are in proper order for globbing in the pdfunite command:
> 
> rename 's/⁠_(\d)\./⁠_0$1\./⁠' score_?.pdf
> rename 's/⁠_(\d\d)\./⁠_0$1\./⁠' score_??.pdf
> 
> To combine the 141 PDF files into one 141-page PDF, I tried pdftk first, but it was failing with errors, so I used pdfunite from the poppler-utils package. If you don't have pdfunite, you can install it:
> 
> sudo apt install poppler-⁠utils
> 
> pdfunite score_*.pdf Jesus_Christ_Superstar.pdf
> 
> Now we can remove the individual PDF files:
> 
> rm score_*.pdf
> 
> I'm glad I discovered pdfunite. It's easier to use than pdftk for merging and it worked where pdftk failed.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mike
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Links:
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[1]
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