It all left me confused, as usual. But delighted about the helpful courtesy. I still have trouble believing you can boot a linux system without password and change somebody's password. I would have thought this a major security hole. I'll probably look into it some day. But with Ubuntu, who knows, you have no root password anyway, as I recall. Regarding harv's "just a construction worker" comment. Sounds like the snobs got to him. He needs to tell the snobs to sit outside in Minnesota weather while he gets his work done, or drive in the ditch to work. One thing living in the boonies teaches you to appreciate is how water, sewer, food, electricity, heat, and reliable transportation to town is more important than dirt under your fingernails. On the technology front, we watched more of a David Attenborough DVD, "Life in the Undergrowth." The photography is incredible, with slow motion high resolution video of a dragonfly in flight, showing independent 4 wing control. Gotta be some computer doing something somewhere to produce this serious natural science. Gonna buy these DVDs for grandkids now living in urbania who never see clean water, and amazing other life forms. They are all too busy taking selfies for facebook. Iznogoud wrote: >> >> I apologize if I've caused offense. >> > > No man, nobody took offense here. > > I cannot speak for harv, but having chatted with him on occasion, I get the > sense that he was wearing his "practical person" hat, and took no offense. > > Clearly Danny was looking at something seemingly insurmountable when he asked > his question. Which reminds me, what happened? Did we help? Did you reinstall, > in good Miscrosoft spirit? > > Also, harv is an example of the gems the internet hides and of the diversity of > its users. He can probably go about his profession without touching a keyboard, > but his inquisition into the realm of sysadmin-ing is admirable, and I am a bit > envious. If you told me he was an NSA agent's alter ego, I'd buy it. OK, I kid, > I kid harv! > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >