we wish. but in the real world we need to deal with and interface with poor protocols and sorry software. almost nobody specifies strict spf compliance. this is probably why. so i guess i also will back off to advisory only. yes it is my problem when folks dont receive my emails. On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 9:29 AM Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman at cwis.biz> wrote: > Correct. Their problem, not yours. :) Just annoying. > > > On Jul 4, 2019, at 2:44 AM, gregrwm <tclug1 at whitleymott.net> wrote: > it's not mine. note the similarity with the node that issued the notice. > i see now, it's the spf forwarding trap. by specifying strict spf > compliance, i break their forwarding of my messages. hmm. > >$ host 192.185.48.84 > >84.48.185.192.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer > gateway23.websitewelcome.com. > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 6:28 PM Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman at notcwis.biz> > wrote: > >> Looks to me like your external IP (192.185.48.84) is not on the SPF1 >> list… >> >> Here’s mine for d3photography: >> >> v=spf1 a mx include:zoho.com include:spf.smtp2go.com ~all >> >> You’re definitely lacking you’re 192.185 IP in that include list. >> >> https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/192.185.48.84 >> Hostname: gateway23.websitewelcome.com >> >> — >> Ryan >> >> >> On Jul 3, 2019, at 10:58 AM, gregrwm <tclug1 at whitleymott.net> wrote: >> i received the two delivery failure notices copied below (portions >> suppressed with ...). it's clear heidi's address in my messages must have >> forwarded to her address at landvantage.com, and i expect the problem is >> in the mail handler there. but i dont want to overlook the possibility the >> error might be mine. the zone definition for whitleymott.net is also >> copied below. if anyone can see what's amis please advise. i'vs also >> written to postmaster at gateway33.websitewelcome.com. i also welcome your >> suggestions on where better to post this question. >> >> >> >$TTL 4h ;ttl for all RRs lacking an explicit ttl >> >@ SOA @ hostmaster.scalliondata.com. ( >> > 696 ;serial >> > 4h ;secondary server refresh >> > 1h ;secondary server refresh retry >> > 4d ;expire unrefreshed secondary server >> > 4h ;ttl for no-such-domain (NXDOMAIN) responses from us >> >) >> >@ NS ns >> >googleffffffffed11605c CNAME google.com. >> >mail CNAME ghs.google.com. >> >webmail CNAME ghs.google.com. >> >mx CNAME ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM >> <http://aspmx.l.google.com/>. >> >smtp CNAME ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM >> <http://aspmx.l.google.com/>. >> >@ MX 10 ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM >> <http://aspmx.l.google.com/>. >> >@ MX 20 ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM >> <http://alt1.aspmx.l.google.com/>. >> >@ MX 20 ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM >> <http://alt2.aspmx.l.google.com/>. >> >@ MX 30 ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM >> <http://aspmx2.googlemail.com/>. >> >@ MX 30 ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM >> <http://aspmx3.googlemail.com/>. >> >@ MX 30 ASPMX4.GOOGLEMAIL.COM >> <http://aspmx4.googlemail.com/>. >> >@ MX 30 ASPMX5.GOOGLEMAIL.COM >> <http://aspmx5.googlemail.com/>. >> >@ TXT "v=spf1 a a:rose.fo4.net a:okra.fo4.net include: >> aspmx.googlemail.com -all" >> >@ A 206.123.88.191 >> >www A 206.123.88.191 >> >ns0 A 206.123.88.191 >> >ns A 209.240.82.11 >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 12:39 PM Mail Delivery System < >> MAILER-DAEMON at gateway23.websitewelcome.com> wrote: >> >>> This is the mail system at host gateway23.websitewelcome.com. >>> >>> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not >>> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. >>> >>> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. >>> >>> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can >>> delete your own text from the attached returned message. >>> >>> The mail system >>> >>> <... at landvantage.com>: host mx10.mailspamprotection.com[184.154.208.34] >>> said: >>> 550 192.185.48.84 is not allowed to send mail from whitleymott.net. >>> Please >>> see the SPF record, with scope mfrom, identity greg at whitleymott.net, >>> and ip >>> 192.185.48.84 (in reply to end of DATA command) >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: gregory mott <greg at whitleymott.net> >>> To: >>> Cc: David ... <...>, heidi... at ...com >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 12:38:35 -0500 >>> ... >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:05 AM Mail Delivery System < >> MAILER-DAEMON at gateway33.websitewelcome.com> wrote: >> >>> This is the mail system at host gateway33.websitewelcome.com. >>> >>> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not >>> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. >>> >>> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. >>> >>> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can >>> delete your own text from the attached returned message. >>> >>> The mail system >>> >>> <... at landvantage.com>: host mx10.mailspamprotection.com[108.163.228.170] >>> said: 550 192.185.146.78 is not allowed to send mail from >>> whitleymott.net. >>> Please see the SPF record, with scope mfrom, identity >>> greg at whitleymott.net, >>> and ip 192.185.146.78 (in reply to end of DATA command) >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: gregory mott <greg at whitleymott.net> >>> To: Sarah ... <... at gmail.com> >>> Cc: Laurel ...<... at gmail.com>, Kurt ... <... at gmail.com>, David ... >>> <...>, heidi... at ...com >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 11:05:17 -0500 >> >> ... >>> >> > -- > this concludes test 42 of big bang inflation dynamics. in the advent of > an actual universe, further instructions will be provided. > 000000000000000000000042 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20190704/74765df2/attachment-0001.html>