From iznogoud at nobelware.com  Mon Mar  1 19:49:53 2021
From: iznogoud at nobelware.com (Iznogoud)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 01:49:53 +0000
Subject: [tclug-list] Downgrading the kernel
In-Reply-To: <CAPpdf5-x1qNbSi2DYo=rFn5jnC-W6ZVjSnNe97s9N0+wvn4t4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPpdf598tDN6ogEE9uA+YPzHQjRLTex2_nwTtJnzTSf8ni2MPw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPpdf5-x1qNbSi2DYo=rFn5jnC-W6ZVjSnNe97s9N0+wvn4t4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20210302014953.GA22375@nobelware.com>

I would love to hold your hand through compiling a kernel, but I think that
you can find out how to do it. My attempt to help here is telling you that
if you start messing with what is pre-packaged and what is not, you will be
spending your time trying to adhere to what some _evolving_ distribution is
doing. Maybe this is an opportunity to learn, regardless of which way yo ugo.

My technical piece of advice is:

0. Try what I suggest in a VM first! (No, the full hardware on the bare metal
system is not testable this way, but upgrading a kernel is, and you should
try it that way FIRST.)

1. Learn how to recover a dead system, in the sense of booting up a system
using an installation CD, dropping in files from a backup, installing GRUB
by hand. (It is easy for me, and the best piece of advice I have is to make
become easy for you.)

2. Download the kernel sources you want, and go to the right place (/usr/src)
and do the 'make config' and all of that, or 'make menuconfig', whatever
seems good for you. And then put the new kernel in /boot with its shiny
new name, and different from the existing one. (It all starts with navigating
to /usr/src/linux-3.0.0 and reading the README. Really...)

3. Modify your GRUB (if GRUB, just edit the grud.conf, if GRUB2 follow the
automated script or hack the grub.conf, which is what I have done) to make
a duplicate of what you are now booting and just change the kernel to the
new name. (Send me your grub.conf via email and I will edit it for you.)

What should happen is that you will reboot and have a new option to boot.
Everyone should know how to do this, and it is worth your time.


From o1bigtenor at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 05:35:55 2021
From: o1bigtenor at gmail.com (o1bigtenor)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 05:35:55 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] Downgrading the kernel
In-Reply-To: <20210302014953.GA22375@nobelware.com>
References: <CAPpdf598tDN6ogEE9uA+YPzHQjRLTex2_nwTtJnzTSf8ni2MPw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPpdf5-x1qNbSi2DYo=rFn5jnC-W6ZVjSnNe97s9N0+wvn4t4w@mail.gmail.com>
 <20210302014953.GA22375@nobelware.com>
Message-ID: <CAPpdf5-CW4-L2-dO=NQpHgStJKEJi5Pmmq1_3xo+V9wsXvXAeA@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for an interesting group of ideas!!!!

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 8:16 PM Iznogoud <iznogoud at nobelware.com> wrote:
>
> I would love to hold your hand through compiling a kernel, but I think that
> you can find out how to do it.

This part is quite interesting - - - - - I wouldn't have even asked
this question
but what I could find in searching was at best current to 5 years ago. Most
was older - - - - some MUCH older.

Somehow compiling a kernel is very little different from 10 to 15 years ago.
Maybe - - - - I also remember a friend muttering about this when he was
doing it some 6 or 8 years ago as to how he spent some about 2 weeks at
it  - - - -  and he had done it previously.

OK - - - - - no tip sheet for kernel compilation - - - - - I can live
with that.

Thanks for the ideas.

From eminmn at usinternet.com  Sat Mar  6 17:33:24 2021
From: eminmn at usinternet.com (E. Casey)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2021 17:33:24 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] looking for blocal (mpls. or mn) computer and linux
 sig called friends
Message-ID: <d2f6e7b1-896b-845e-bd0c-70fbccc7edec@usinternet.com>

Hello:

Does any of you have information about a local group called "Friends," I 
think. In the past I was able to get help from some of them on some home 
networking issues I was having. Meanwhile, my email hosting (in Silsbee, 
TX) went down due to cold weather and public utility management 
problems, so I'm not sure whether information on its servers will ever 
be available to me again. (isp was sysmatrix.net)
Their mailing list (if that was what it was) didn't prefix the group 
name to the subject line of every posting, so I might have mistaken many 
posts for spam. I don't remember if it used mailman or something else.

Any help?

Ed
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From iznogoud at nobelware.com  Sat Mar  6 17:38:50 2021
From: iznogoud at nobelware.com (Iznogoud)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2021 23:38:50 +0000
Subject: [tclug-list] looking for blocal (mpls. or mn) computer and
 linux sig called friends
In-Reply-To: <d2f6e7b1-896b-845e-bd0c-70fbccc7edec@usinternet.com>
References: <d2f6e7b1-896b-845e-bd0c-70fbccc7edec@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <20210306233850.GA8656@nobelware.com>

https://talk.begriffs.com/howto/


From eminmn at usinternet.com  Sat Mar  6 20:51:10 2021
From: eminmn at usinternet.com (E. Casey)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2021 20:51:10 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] looking for blocal (mpls. or mn) computer and
 linux sig called friends
In-Reply-To: <20210306233850.GA8656@nobelware.com>
References: <d2f6e7b1-896b-845e-bd0c-70fbccc7edec@usinternet.com>
 <20210306233850.GA8656@nobelware.com>
Message-ID: <3a8fc92f-081f-f34c-b98b-2834ef3b2399@usinternet.com>

Thanks; that is very good.

Ed


On 3/6/2021 17:38, Iznogoud wrote:
> https://talk.begriffs.com/howto/
>
> _______________________________________________
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From marc at e-skinner.net  Fri Mar 12 08:30:12 2021
From: marc at e-skinner.net (Marc Skinner)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 08:30:12 -0600
Subject: [tclug-list] FYI - Linux cluster for sale
Message-ID: <f30b9452-7806-f971-a020-32c521b24b83@e-skinner.net>

I'm selling "3" computers for $250 each.

Parts listed below - they were a 3 node CEPH cluster for my lab for 
years.  I pulled most of the HDs out, and now looking to sell them.  All 
3 would make a good lab cluster for someone :)

High quality case, and AIO.  MB/CPU/RAM are good but older.

NZXT Red trim ATX Case
400 Watt Power Supply
Asus Motherboard (A88XM-A)
AMD quad core 4ghz CPU (A8-6600K)
Patriot 16GB Gaming DDR3 RAM
4 x 120mm NZXT case fans
Corsair AIO 120mm CPU cooler with 120mm fan
1TB Hitachi 7200RPM Hard Drive

I have run CentOS, RHEL and Fedora on them over the years.


From tclug1 at whitleymott.net  Tue Mar 16 14:13:32 2021
From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 14:13:32 -0500
Subject: [tclug-list] what's the best way to backup qcow2 files (on centos8)?
In-Reply-To: <CAD+dB9BV270ozPQ6TCVSTg8tiv8v6AH2iBDJrT7_74fxrOEciQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD+dB9D=bS5jf7gpQHsKo=qd1n2Ua7HHYgQo80y+i15OG1pHkA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAD+dB9BV270ozPQ6TCVSTg8tiv8v6AH2iBDJrT7_74fxrOEciQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+dB9ChTpf6vHt-e0O1_SVu+cLXJjh76fVft=CfbTm6U9j5vA@mail.gmail.com>

problem:  blockcommit only works if the guest is running.

what we want:  reliable and automated backups.  a fair selection of old
versions.

backuppc seems pretty good.  but it begs the question of how best to backup
qcow2 files.

currently i'm using:
virsh snapshot-create-as <guest> <snap> --atomic --no-metadata --disk-only
--diskspec=<diskspec-from-virsh-domblklist>
mkdir -p /mnt/point
guestmount -iroallow_root -a<guest.qcow2> /mnt/point
rsync... (backuppc)
guestunmount /mnt/point
virsh blockcommit <guest> <guest.snap> --active --pivot --delete

but blockcommit only works if the guest is running.

is there an approach that works, whether the guest is running, stopped, or
stops or starts during the backup?

methods i'm not considering:
just copy the qcow2 files.
copy files out from inside a running vm.
stop the vm and then copy files.

"QCOW2 backing files & overlays"
(https://kashyapc.fedorapeople.org/virt/lc-2012/snapshots-handout.html)
...discusses internal snapshots, which to me raises the question, how might
i mount (or guestmount) an internal snapshot so i can copy files out of it?

anyone here know a good answer, or a better place to ask?
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From tclug1 at whitleymott.net  Thu Mar 18 10:12:11 2021
From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:12:11 -0500
Subject: [tclug-list] fill out .pdf forms
Message-ID: <CAD+dB9Bu3U8ejMwNUq6=mktVVajhpK+Z-4w8jywK8nCY2pV4Hg@mail.gmail.com>

how do folks here fill out .pdf forms?  print them?  or something that
doesn't require paper?  maybe something online?

firefox(nightly) shows me the .pdf form nicely, but then, to fill it out,
first i bring it into gimp.  already it doesn't look so nice.  looks fuzzy,
like out of focus.  this is on lubuntu focal.  from gimp i can save it and
then work with it in libreoffice, but it's still the blurry image gimp gave
me.

what do other folks do?
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From gsker at skerbitz.org  Thu Mar 18 10:54:47 2021
From: gsker at skerbitz.org (gerry)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:54:47 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [tclug-list] fill out .pdf forms
In-Reply-To: <CAD+dB9Bu3U8ejMwNUq6=mktVVajhpK+Z-4w8jywK8nCY2pV4Hg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD+dB9Bu3U8ejMwNUq6=mktVVajhpK+Z-4w8jywK8nCY2pV4Hg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d62a46c1-f3ed-016-85af-c3a84d17eb84@skerbitz.org>

qpdfview

On Thu, 18 Mar 2021, gregrwm wrote:

> how do folks here fill out .pdf forms?  print them?  or something that doesn't require paper?  maybe something online?
> 
> firefox(nightly) shows me the .pdf form nicely, but then, to fill it out, first i bring it into gimp.  already it doesn't look so
> nice.  looks fuzzy, like out of focus.  this is on lubuntu focal.  from gimp i can save it and then work with it in libreoffice,
> but it's still the blurry image gimp gave me.
> 
> what do other folks do?
> 
>

--
gsker at skerbitz.org

https://voip.ms/en/invite/MjIzNTk5 $10 credit (1 mo is $0.85 per phone number)

From tclug1 at whitleymott.net  Fri Mar 19 17:26:01 2021
From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 17:26:01 -0500
Subject: [tclug-list] fill out .pdf forms
In-Reply-To: <d62a46c1-f3ed-016-85af-c3a84d17eb84@skerbitz.org>
References: <CAD+dB9Bu3U8ejMwNUq6=mktVVajhpK+Z-4w8jywK8nCY2pV4Hg@mail.gmail.com>
 <d62a46c1-f3ed-016-85af-c3a84d17eb84@skerbitz.org>
Message-ID: <CAD+dB9DHjxZonwMs02iex20E3RnocPNXr5SfBtR6T_zHBjy9vA@mail.gmail.com>

nice, even tho curiously the manual page makes no mention of its ability to
fill in .pdf forms.

however on the medicare form i'm looking at currently, there's no box to
enter anything where the form asks for my signature.  so for that, it looks
like i'm back to square one.  i can print it, i can use gimp, but gimp
curiously, disappointingly, makes everything fuzzy.

maybe there's a way to add a signature using something other than gimp?  or
a tweak to gimp so it doesn't make the page all blurry?  or something even
more simple i'm not seeing yet?


On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 11:04 AM gerry <gsker at skerbitz.org> wrote:

> qpdfview
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2021, gregrwm wrote:
> > how do folks here fill out .pdf forms?  print them?  or something that
> doesn't require paper?  maybe something online?
> >
> > firefox(nightly) shows me the .pdf form nicely, but then, to fill it
> out, first i bring it into gimp.  already it doesn't look so
> > nice.  looks fuzzy, like out of focus.  this is on lubuntu focal.  from
> gimp i can save it and then work with it in libreoffice,
> > but it's still the blurry image gimp gave me.
> >
> > what do other folks do?
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From tclug1 at whitleymott.net  Fri Mar 19 17:35:07 2021
From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 17:35:07 -0500
Subject: [tclug-list] fill out .pdf forms
In-Reply-To: <CAD+dB9DHjxZonwMs02iex20E3RnocPNXr5SfBtR6T_zHBjy9vA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD+dB9Bu3U8ejMwNUq6=mktVVajhpK+Z-4w8jywK8nCY2pV4Hg@mail.gmail.com>
 <d62a46c1-f3ed-016-85af-c3a84d17eb84@skerbitz.org>
 <CAD+dB9DHjxZonwMs02iex20E3RnocPNXr5SfBtR6T_zHBjy9vA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+dB9C1FxNKHr9+Ar89LRZVOzpLzD5urSgU_zP3y13Q-H3m1g@mail.gmail.com>

gimp default .pdf import uses 100 pixels per inch.  not a very realistic
default.  300 is still minimal, but entirely better.


On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 5:26 PM gregrwm <tclug1 at whitleymott.net> wrote:

> nice, even tho curiously the manual page makes no mention of its ability
> to fill in .pdf forms.
>
> however on the medicare form i'm looking at currently, there's no box to
> enter anything where the form asks for my signature.  so for that, it looks
> like i'm back to square one.  i can print it, i can use gimp, but gimp
> curiously, disappointingly, makes everything fuzzy.
>
> maybe there's a way to add a signature using something other than gimp?
> or a tweak to gimp so it doesn't make the page all blurry?  or something
> even more simple i'm not seeing yet?
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 11:04 AM gerry <gsker at skerbitz.org> wrote:
>
>> qpdfview
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Mar 2021, gregrwm wrote:
>> > how do folks here fill out .pdf forms?  print them?  or something that
>> doesn't require paper?  maybe something online?
>> >
>> > firefox(nightly) shows me the .pdf form nicely, but then, to fill it
>> out, first i bring it into gimp.  already it doesn't look so
>> > nice.  looks fuzzy, like out of focus.  this is on lubuntu focal.  from
>> gimp i can save it and then work with it in libreoffice,
>> > but it's still the blurry image gimp gave me.
>> >
>> > what do other folks do?
>
>

-- 
this concludes test 42 of big bang inflation dynamics.  in the advent of an
actual universe, further instructions will be provided.
000000000000000000000042
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From gsker at skerbitz.org  Sat Mar 20 12:04:39 2021
From: gsker at skerbitz.org (gerry)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 12:04:39 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [tclug-list] fill out .pdf forms
In-Reply-To: <CAD+dB9C1FxNKHr9+Ar89LRZVOzpLzD5urSgU_zP3y13Q-H3m1g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD+dB9Bu3U8ejMwNUq6=mktVVajhpK+Z-4w8jywK8nCY2pV4Hg@mail.gmail.com>
 <d62a46c1-f3ed-016-85af-c3a84d17eb84@skerbitz.org>
 <CAD+dB9DHjxZonwMs02iex20E3RnocPNXr5SfBtR6T_zHBjy9vA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAD+dB9C1FxNKHr9+Ar89LRZVOzpLzD5urSgU_zP3y13Q-H3m1g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <40a48d96-82a0-614-c298-406e7126e47f@skerbitz.org>

The free version of master PDF Editor will do what you want.
     https://code-industry.net/get-master-pdf-editor-for-ubuntu/?download

xournal will allow you do draw on your pdf but will NOT enable you to fill in the form.
It's surprisingly good at handling PDFs.


On Fri, 19 Mar 2021, gregrwm wrote:

> gimp default .pdf import uses 100 pixels per inch.  not a very realistic default.  300 is still minimal, but
> entirely better.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 5:26 PM gregrwm <tclug1 at whitleymott.net> wrote:
>       nice, even tho curiously the manual page makes no mention of its ability to fill in .pdf forms.
> 
> however on the medicare form i'm looking at currently, there's no box to enter anything where the form
> asks for my signature.  so for that, it looks like i'm back to square one.  i can print it, i can use
> gimp, but gimp curiously, disappointingly, makes everything fuzzy.
> 
> maybe there's a way to add a signature using something other than gimp?  or a tweak to gimp so it doesn't
> make the page all blurry?  or something even more simple i'm not seeing yet?
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 11:04 AM gerry <gsker at skerbitz.org> wrote:
>       qpdfview
> 
>
>       On Thu, 18 Mar 2021, gregrwm wrote:
>       > how do folks here fill out .pdf forms?  print them?  or something that doesn't require
>       paper?  maybe something online?
>       >
>       > firefox(nightly) shows me the .pdf form nicely, but then, to fill it out, first i bring it
>       into gimp.  already it doesn't look so
>       > nice.  looks fuzzy, like out of focus.  this is on lubuntu focal.  from gimp i can save it
>       and then work with it in libreoffice,
>       > but it's still the blurry image gimp gave me.
>       >
>       > what do other folks do?
> 
> 
> 
> --
> this concludes test 42 of big bang inflation dynamics.  in the advent of an actual universe, further
> instructions will be provided.  000000000000000000000042
> 
>

--
gsker at skerbitz.org

https://voip.ms/en/invite/MjIzNTk5 $10 credit (1 mo is $0.85 per phone number)

From tclug1 at whitleymott.net  Thu Mar 25 11:57:57 2021
From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 11:57:57 -0500
Subject: [tclug-list] sort output-so-far
Message-ID: <CAD+dB9CnsLMANA-QhHM3OHPAA-eB1oy_vrWz=1XDgUtpaG9OXg@mail.gmail.com>

question for bashers:

a bash command entered as a foreground job may fork, leave something in the
background, and exit to the bash prompt, and the job in the background will
print it's output whenever it has any.  So far so good.

i want to enter a command which launches 3 subcommands in parallel, wait up
to 3 seconds unless all 3 subcommands finish sooner, sort all their
output-so-far together, print it, and exit to the bash prompt at this
point, and if any of the subcommands weren't finished, leave them in the
background and let them print more output whenever they have any.

easy?  hard?
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From mbmiller+l at gmail.com  Fri Mar 26 14:24:39 2021
From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:24:39 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [tclug-list] sort output-so-far
In-Reply-To: <CAD+dB9CnsLMANA-QhHM3OHPAA-eB1oy_vrWz=1XDgUtpaG9OXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD+dB9CnsLMANA-QhHM3OHPAA-eB1oy_vrWz=1XDgUtpaG9OXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2103261418480.32374@taxa2>

Can you use tee to send output to a temp file?

process | tee file | whatevs

Data coming out of "process" will go to "file" but it will also go to 
"whatevs" for further processing.

Then you read from file.  Mutiple processes could make multiple files. 
Use the temp command to make the files.  One thing I'm not completely sure 
of:  does tee write continously to file, or does it do it in only at 
certain moments, like after each block of data comes out?  I'm guessing 
continuous but not sure.

Mike


On Thu, 25 Mar 2021, gregrwm wrote:

> question for bashers:
>
> a bash command entered as a foreground job may fork, leave something in the
> background, and exit to the bash prompt, and the job in the background will
> print it's output whenever it has any.  So far so good.
>
> i want to enter a command which launches 3 subcommands in parallel, wait up
> to 3 seconds unless all 3 subcommands finish sooner, sort all their
> output-so-far together, print it, and exit to the bash prompt at this
> point, and if any of the subcommands weren't finished, leave them in the
> background and let them print more output whenever they have any.
>
> easy?  hard?
>

From mbmiller+l at gmail.com  Fri Mar 26 14:33:22 2021
From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:33:22 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [tclug-list] foot pedal for transcriptions?
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2103261424590.32374@taxa2>

Have any of you used something like this?  I'm interested in doing 
transcriptions -- sometimes spoken language, sometimes music -- and I need 
to be able to jump back a second or two, repeat, etc.  Basically, what I 
want is to be able to do a few typical VLC shortcuts by pressing something 
with my foot.

USB Foot Pedal for Computer Transcription
https://www.amazon.com/Infinity-USB-1-Computer-Transcription-Pedal/dp/B008EA1K66

I thought this had the right idea...

Vidami YouTube Hands Free Video Controller
https://www.amazon.com/Vidami-YouTube-Hands-Video-Controller/dp/B08NXV8Q9Y/

...but it's made for YouTube videos and the price is about double what I 
would have expected.

I want something that will work with VLC and Linux.

Mike

From mbmiller+l at gmail.com  Fri Mar 26 15:10:55 2021
From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 15:10:55 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [tclug-list] foot pedal for transcriptions?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2103261424590.32374@taxa2>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2103261424590.32374@taxa2>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2103261439330.32374@taxa2>

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, Mike Miller wrote:

> USB Foot Pedal for Computer Transcription
> https://www.amazon.com/Infinity-USB-1-Computer-Transcription-Pedal/dp/B008EA1K66

One of the first things I thought of was something like this:

https://www.musicradar.com/news/this-video-shows-you-how-to-turn-an-old-usb-keyboard-into-a-foot-switch-controller

If I can find the right keyboard for my use case, it might work really 
well.  These would be the most important keystrokes:

space	Play/pause
Shift + Left Arrow	Jump 5 seconds back
[	Slower (fine)
]	Faster (fine)

These would be good, too:

=	Normal rate
Shift + Right Arrow	Jump 5 seconds forward
Alt + Left Arrow	Jump 10 sec. back
Alt + Right Arrow	Jump 10 sec. forward
Control + Left Arrow	Jump 1 minute back
Control + Right Arrow	Jump 1 minute forward

Apparently, something like this might be useful for looping part of a song 
I'm trying to play along with (or some speech I want to transcribe):

start=240 #start time in seconds
stop=560  #stop time in seconds
vlc movie.avi --start-time $start --stop-time $stop --repeat

Mike

From clark.andreasen at gmail.com  Sun Mar 28 12:22:07 2021
From: clark.andreasen at gmail.com (Clark Andreasen)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 12:22:07 -0500
Subject: [tclug-list] foot pedal for transcriptions?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2103261424590.32374@taxa2>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2103261424590.32374@taxa2>
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If you're willing to DIY it, some types of Arduino can act as a USB HID and
emulate any keystrokes you want (officially, the pro micro iirc, but modern
Nano's can be hacked to do so as well since they have a reprogrammable USB
chip).

 You could even buy a commercial foot pedal you like and just replace the
brains with an Arduino. It would be a bit of a project but easily doable if
you have the requisite electronics background, or are willing to learn on
the fly.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, 14:33 Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com> wrote:

> Have any of you used something like this?  I'm interested in doing
> transcriptions -- sometimes spoken language, sometimes music -- and I need
> to be able to jump back a second or two, repeat, etc.  Basically, what I
> want is to be able to do a few typical VLC shortcuts by pressing something
> with my foot.
>
> USB Foot Pedal for Computer Transcription
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Infinity-USB-1-Computer-Transcription-Pedal/dp/B008EA1K66
>
> I thought this had the right idea...
>
> Vidami YouTube Hands Free Video Controller
> https://www.amazon.com/Vidami-YouTube-Hands-Video-Controller/dp/B08NXV8Q9Y/
>
> ...but it's made for YouTube videos and the price is about double what I
> would have expected.
>
> I want something that will work with VLC and Linux.
>
> Mike
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From jjensen at apache.org  Sun Mar 28 14:13:05 2021
From: jjensen at apache.org (Jeff Jensen)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 14:13:05 -0500
Subject: [tclug-list] foot pedal for transcriptions?
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References: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2103261424590.32374@taxa2>
 <CAPEPWRwRooJgVB0rG4SEv5-8J2TGB=WNhM28eLw_8rRfVELdkA@mail.gmail.com>
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Kinesis sells a 1 foot model [0] and a 3 foot pedal model [1] that *might*
work for your setup but of course were made for their KBs.

[0] https://kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage-single-pedal/
[1] https://kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage-triple-pedal/


On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 12:30 PM Clark Andreasen <clark.andreasen at gmail.com>
wrote:

> If you're willing to DIY it, some types of Arduino can act as a USB HID
> and emulate any keystrokes you want (officially, the pro micro iirc, but
> modern Nano's can be hacked to do so as well since they have a
> reprogrammable USB chip).
>
>  You could even buy a commercial foot pedal you like and just replace the
> brains with an Arduino. It would be a bit of a project but easily doable if
> you have the requisite electronics background, or are willing to learn on
> the fly.
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, 14:33 Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Have any of you used something like this?  I'm interested in doing
>> transcriptions -- sometimes spoken language, sometimes music -- and I
>> need
>> to be able to jump back a second or two, repeat, etc.  Basically, what I
>> want is to be able to do a few typical VLC shortcuts by pressing
>> something
>> with my foot.
>>
>> USB Foot Pedal for Computer Transcription
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Infinity-USB-1-Computer-Transcription-Pedal/dp/B008EA1K66
>>
>> I thought this had the right idea...
>>
>> Vidami YouTube Hands Free Video Controller
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Vidami-YouTube-Hands-Video-Controller/dp/B08NXV8Q9Y/
>>
>> ...but it's made for YouTube videos and the price is about double what I
>> would have expected.
>>
>> I want something that will work with VLC and Linux.
>>
>> Mike
>> _______________________________________________
>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
>>
> _______________________________________________
> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
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From mbmiller+l at gmail.com  Mon Mar 29 01:32:29 2021
From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 01:32:29 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [tclug-list] foot pedal for transcriptions?
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References: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2103261424590.32374@taxa2>
 <CAPEPWRwRooJgVB0rG4SEv5-8J2TGB=WNhM28eLw_8rRfVELdkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2103290055270.23853@taxa2>

Thanks for the interesting and informative replies, Clark and Jeff!

I ordered an $8 USB keyboard from Amazon on Friday:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017LRFVKS/

It arrived this afternoon (Sunday).  I immediately pulled off all but 10 
of the keys using a large paperclip (which worked great).  I tested it 
out.  It worked perfectly.

I replaced the space bar with a smaller key so that I could hit the Alt 
key easily without hitting the space bar.

This is a lot cheaper than the Vidami device that inspired me:

https://www.amazon.com/Vidami-YouTube-Hands-Video-Controller/dp/B08NXV8Q9Y/

The Vidami seems to be dependent on proprietary software and it is made 
for working witn YouTube videos.  I work with MP3 and MP4 files, mostly 
with VLC, so I didn't want the Vidami even though it looks pretty cool. 
It also costs $150, so I saved more than $140 with my $8 solution.  The 
tax on the Vidami would have been more than the total cost of the USB 
keyboard.  It only took about 5 minutes to pull off the unwanted keys.

Mike