From cncole at earthlink.net Fri Apr 2 11:52:04 2004 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:25 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] [tcwug-web] TCWUG Website Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From cncole at earthlink.net Fri Apr 2 12:06:05 2004 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:25 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Hennepin County Libraries - wireless access. In-Reply-To: <20030806095027.A21649@florence.linkmargin.com> Message-ID: Haven't seen an update.. Both Ridgedale and York libraries now have WiFi. Requires a simple browser checkin, then seems very good. Has Port 25 open. Beside the Apple shop in Southdale, there are no other free hotspots in the Southdale area, right? Several SurfThing locations have lost Port 25 access amd may not regain it. Charter cable and Frontier's DSL block port 25. I can no longer use my smtpauth to send mail via my ISP as I do at most sites, including this one in CO. While I can use web mail, that's a big nuisance that creates extra housekeeping work for me, so I just go elsewhere. Diamond's coffee shop at 1618 Central Ave NE has free WiFi and may be a good alternative to Dunn on 3rd for meetings. Parking is MUCH easier and I think all parking options are free. Might have a bigger menu. Chuck > -----Original Message----- > From: tcwug-list-admin@tcwug.org [mailto:tcwug-list-admin@tcwug.org]On > Behalf Of Andy Warner > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:50 AM > > I hear that Hennepin County Libraries are testing wireless > internet access. Currently the only library supporting > it is Ridgedale - testing there is slated to run through > September, with plans to subsequently roll out support > at Southdale and Maple Grove. Brookdale and Eden Prairie > are planned to have it when their new facilities open > sometime in 2004. The roll-out will continue through > 2004 to other libraries in the Hennepin County system. _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From dieman at ringworld.org Fri Apr 2 12:21:55 2004 From: dieman at ringworld.org (Scott Dier) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:25 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Re: Hennepin County Libraries - wireless access. In-Reply-To: References: <20030806095027.A21649@florence.linkmargin.com> Message-ID: <20040402182154.GA29620@ringworld.org> * Chuck Cole [040402 12:19]: > Both Ridgedale and York libraries now have WiFi. Requires a simple browser checkin, then seems very good. Has Port 25 open. Why not use the submission port, port 587, for sending authenticated SMTP email instead of 25? -- Scott Dier KC0OBS http://www.ringworld.org/ -- http://www.railworks.org/ -- http://publictransportation.org/ -- Stop "playing political splat ball," support the Northstar Train! _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From mellsworth at stratvantage.com Fri Apr 2 12:45:26 2004 From: mellsworth at stratvantage.com (Mike Ellsworth) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:25 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Hennepin County Libraries - wireless access. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <014901c418e2$b52df520$6d01a8c0@stratlap2> We maintain an Excel spreadsheet of hotspots in the Twin Cities on our Website at: http://www.thewimaxguys.com/hotspots.htm It contains for pay and free hotspots. I invite everyone to help keep it up to date. Mike Ellsworth The WiMAX Guys, LLC StratVantage Consulting, LLC 952-525-1584 mellsworth@stratvantage.com www.StratVantage.com www.TheWiMAXGuys.com Get a free one-hour wireless network evaluation. Forward this message to freebie@theWiMAXGuys.com They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ?Ben Franklin, ~1784 -----Original Message----- From: tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org [mailto:tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Cole Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:06 PM To: tcwug-list@tcwug.org Subject: RE: [TCWUG] Hennepin County Libraries - wireless access. Haven't seen an update.. Both Ridgedale and York libraries now have WiFi. Requires a simple browser checkin, then seems very good. Has Port 25 open. Beside the Apple shop in Southdale, there are no other free hotspots in the Southdale area, right? Several SurfThing locations have lost Port 25 access amd may not regain it. Charter cable and Frontier's DSL block port 25. I can no longer use my smtpauth to send mail via my ISP as I do at most sites, including this one in CO. While I can use web mail, that's a big nuisance that creates extra housekeeping work for me, so I just go elsewhere. Diamond's coffee shop at 1618 Central Ave NE has free WiFi and may be a good alternative to Dunn on 3rd for meetings. Parking is MUCH easier and I think all parking options are free. Might have a bigger menu. Chuck > -----Original Message----- > From: tcwug-list-admin@tcwug.org [mailto:tcwug-list-admin@tcwug.org]On > Behalf Of Andy Warner > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:50 AM > > I hear that Hennepin County Libraries are testing wireless > internet access. Currently the only library supporting > it is Ridgedale - testing there is slated to run through > September, with plans to subsequently roll out support > at Southdale and Maple Grove. Brookdale and Eden Prairie > are planned to have it when their new facilities open > sometime in 2004. The roll-out will continue through > 2004 to other libraries in the Hennepin County system. _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From cncole at earthlink.net Fri Apr 2 15:47:40 2004 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:26 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Hennepin County Libraries - wireless access. In-Reply-To: <014901c418e2$b52df520$6d01a8c0@stratlap2> Message-ID: Thanks, but that list is uninteresting in form and content, IMHO. I'd like to see a TCWUG list of free hotspots.. only TCWUG's list (or a non-profit one), and only free hotspots. Chuck > -----Original Message----- > From: tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org > [mailto:tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org]On Behalf Of Mike Ellsworth > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:45 PM > To: cncole@earthlink.net; 'Twin Cities Wireless Users Group List' > Subject: RE: [TCWUG] Hennepin County Libraries - wireless access. > > > We maintain an Excel spreadsheet of hotspots in the Twin Cities on our > Website at: > > http://www.thewimaxguys.com/hotspots.htm > > It contains for pay and free hotspots. I invite everyone to help keep it up > to date. > > Mike Ellsworth > The WiMAX Guys, LLC > StratVantage Consulting, LLC > 952-525-1584 > mellsworth@stratvantage.com > www.StratVantage.com > www.TheWiMAXGuys.com > Get a free one-hour wireless network evaluation. Forward this message to > freebie@theWiMAXGuys.com > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety > deserve neither liberty nor safety. > ?Ben Franklin, ~1784 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org [mailto:tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org] On > Behalf Of Chuck Cole > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:06 PM > To: tcwug-list@tcwug.org > Subject: RE: [TCWUG] Hennepin County Libraries - wireless access. > > Haven't seen an update.. > > Both Ridgedale and York libraries now have WiFi. Requires a simple browser > checkin, then seems very good. Has Port 25 open. > > Beside the Apple shop in Southdale, there are no other free hotspots in the > Southdale area, right? > > > Several SurfThing locations have lost Port 25 access amd may not regain it. > Charter cable and Frontier's DSL block port 25. I can > no longer use my smtpauth to send mail via my ISP as I do at most sites, > including this one in CO. While I can use web mail, that's > a big nuisance that creates extra housekeeping work for me, so I just go > elsewhere. > > Diamond's coffee shop at 1618 Central Ave NE has free WiFi and may be a good > alternative to Dunn on 3rd for meetings. Parking is > MUCH easier and I think all parking options are free. Might have a bigger > menu. > > Chuck > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tcwug-list-admin@tcwug.org [mailto:tcwug-list-admin@tcwug.org]On > > Behalf Of Andy Warner > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:50 AM > > > > I hear that Hennepin County Libraries are testing wireless > > internet access. Currently the only library supporting > > it is Ridgedale - testing there is slated to run through > > September, with plans to subsequently roll out support > > at Southdale and Maple Grove. Brookdale and Eden Prairie > > are planned to have it when their new facilities open > > sometime in 2004. The roll-out will continue through > > 2004 to other libraries in the Hennepin County system. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota > http://www.tcwug.org > tcwug-list@tcwug.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.tcwug.org > tcwug-list@tcwug.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list > _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From KROLFZEN at mn.rr.com Fri Apr 2 17:09:34 2004 From: KROLFZEN at mn.rr.com (Toni Decker) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:26 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Best access point in Loring Park Message-ID: I've been in the park twice now with my Powerbook. The first time I sat across the street from Dunn Bros. on a bench by the pond. The second time more in the center of the park by the garden. On both occasions I was able to get a signal, although not a very strong one. The location across from Dunn. Bros. seemed to be stronger then in the central location. My experience with both locations was the surfing was slow and sometimes not at all. Is there a spot in the park that is closer to the access points or is the whole park on the same signal strength? _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From cncole at earthlink.net Fri Apr 2 17:31:12 2004 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:26 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Ports for wireless smtpauth access. In-Reply-To: <20040402182154.GA29620@ringworld.org> Message-ID: Thanks, but.. Tech support at Earthlink previously told me that only port 25 would work for their smtpauth. I tried port 587 from this location and it doesn't work, but port 25 works here and most places. Any other suggestions? I'm ignorant of these things, but may have adequate references. What reference covers ports and their uses? I understand that firewalling, etc, can close and alter doors. Chuck -----Original Message----- > From: tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org > [mailto:tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org]On Behalf Of Scott Dier > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:22 PM > To: cncole@earthlink.net; Twin Cities Wireless Users Group List > Subject: [TCWUG] Re: Hennepin County Libraries - wireless access. > > > * Chuck Cole [040402 12:19]: > > Both Ridgedale and York libraries now have WiFi. Requires a simple browser checkin, then seems very good. Has Port 25 open. > > Why not use the submission port, port 587, for sending authenticated > SMTP email instead of 25? > > -- > Scott Dier KC0OBS http://www.ringworld.org/ _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From nkras at visi.com Fri Apr 2 17:48:20 2004 From: nkras at visi.com (Neal Krasnoff) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:26 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Best access point in Loring Park In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <38887540-8500-11D8-875F-000A958B32EC@visi.com> On Apr 2, 2004, at 5:09 PM, Toni Decker wrote: > I've been in the park twice now with my Powerbook. The first time I > sat across the street from Dunn Bros. on a bench by the pond. The > second time more in the center of the park by the garden. On both > occasions I was able to get a signal, although not a very strong one. > The location across from Dunn. Bros. seemed to be stronger then in > the central location. My experience with both locations was the > surfing was slow and sometimes not at all. > > > Is there a spot in the park that is closer to the access points or is > the whole park on the same signal strength? > The antennas have to be re-aimed, and a repeater site on Harmon Place will be installed April 14th or 15th. MCTC will be in operation when technical details are worked out. Neal _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From dieman at ringworld.org Fri Apr 2 19:43:38 2004 From: dieman at ringworld.org (Scott Dier) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:26 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Re: Ports for wireless smtpauth access. In-Reply-To: References: <20040402182154.GA29620@ringworld.org> Message-ID: <20040403014338.GE29620@ringworld.org> * Chuck Cole [040402 17:39]: > Thanks, but.. Tech support at Earthlink previously told me that only port 25 would work for their smtpauth. I tried port 587 Yeah, it depends on the ISP. Many are adding the port because of the port 25 restrictions. Thanks. -- Scott Dier KC0OBS http://www.ringworld.org/ -- http://www.railworks.org/ -- http://publictransportation.org/ -- Stop "playing political splat ball," support the Northstar Train! _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From cncole at earthlink.net Wed Apr 7 14:53:57 2004 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:26 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] News: USR takes 802.11g to 125MHz Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From cncole at earthlink.net Thu Apr 8 22:49:57 2004 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:26 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] FW: Your Wi-Fi Meetup is cancelled Message-ID: I was curious about this "MeetUp" thing (a business?) so I did the free sign-up. This seems to be some sort of commercial control for many local interests. One must be a paying member in order to suggest a meeting place. I think a bunch of TCWUG members should sign in, and all vote to hold a "meet-up" at a particular place while laying low about the TCWUG until we better know how this MeetUp thing seeks to control local publicity, membership, and activity. Something about this MeetUp group has a smell about it.. IMHO. Anyone interested? Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Wi-Fi Meetup [mailto:wifi@meetup.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:17 PM To: cncole@earthlink.net Subject: Your Wi-Fi Meetup is cancelled Unfortunately, fewer than 5 people voted on a venue, so the Minneapolis, MN Wi-Fi Meetup is cancelled this month. Help make it happen next month! What you can do now: 1. Check to see if there's a Wi-Fi Meetup happening this month in another city near you: http://wifi.meetup.com/ 2. Help spread the word for next month: * Tell friends about http://wifi.meetup.com/tellfriends/ * Post flyers around town: http://wifi.meetup.com/flyer/ * Tell good websites about http://wifi.meetup.com/share/ 3. Get involved with Wi-Fi Meetups in other ways while waiting for more local Wi-Fi Geeks: http://wifi.meetup.com/plus/ 4. There are Meetup Days everywhere on 3500+ topics. Visit: http://www.meetup.com/ Thanks for your patience! Need help? Visit: http://wifi.meetup.com/help/ Remove yourself or update your account at: http://my.meetup.com/ _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From mellsworth at stratvantage.com Fri Apr 9 06:16:20 2004 From: mellsworth at stratvantage.com (Mike Ellsworth) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:26 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] FW: Your Wi-Fi Meetup is cancelled In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003001c41e24$34d840a0$b0041944@stratlap2> Chuck, I've gone to other meetups and they're on the up and up. They make their money getting a spiff from venues to drive traffic to them. John Dean used meetups to organize his supporters. I wouldn't recommend paying the money to suggest a venue, though. Doesn't seem like it's worth it to me. Mike Ellsworth The WiMAX Guys, LLC StratVantage Consulting, LLC 952-525-1584 mellsworth@stratvantage.com www.StratVantage.com www.TheWiMAXGuys.com Get a free one-hour wireless network evaluation. Forward this message to freebie@theWiMAXGuys.com They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ?Ben Franklin, ~1784 -----Original Message----- From: tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org [mailto:tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Cole Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:50 PM To: TCWUG-List Subject: [TCWUG] FW: Your Wi-Fi Meetup is cancelled I was curious about this "MeetUp" thing (a business?) so I did the free sign-up. This seems to be some sort of commercial control for many local interests. One must be a paying member in order to suggest a meeting place. I think a bunch of TCWUG members should sign in, and all vote to hold a "meet-up" at a particular place while laying low about the TCWUG until we better know how this MeetUp thing seeks to control local publicity, membership, and activity. Something about this MeetUp group has a smell about it.. IMHO. Anyone interested? Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Wi-Fi Meetup [mailto:wifi@meetup.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:17 PM To: cncole@earthlink.net Subject: Your Wi-Fi Meetup is cancelled Unfortunately, fewer than 5 people voted on a venue, so the Minneapolis, MN Wi-Fi Meetup is cancelled this month. Help make it happen next month! What you can do now: 1. Check to see if there's a Wi-Fi Meetup happening this month in another city near you: http://wifi.meetup.com/ 2. Help spread the word for next month: * Tell friends about http://wifi.meetup.com/tellfriends/ * Post flyers around town: http://wifi.meetup.com/flyer/ * Tell good websites about http://wifi.meetup.com/share/ 3. Get involved with Wi-Fi Meetups in other ways while waiting for more local Wi-Fi Geeks: http://wifi.meetup.com/plus/ 4. There are Meetup Days everywhere on 3500+ topics. Visit: http://www.meetup.com/ Thanks for your patience! Need help? Visit: http://wifi.meetup.com/help/ Remove yourself or update your account at: http://my.meetup.com/ _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From tim at politalk.com Fri Apr 9 09:45:34 2004 From: tim at politalk.com (Tim Erickson) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:26 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] FW: Your Wi-Fi Meetup is cancelled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I think a bunch of TCWUG members should sign in, and all vote to >hold a "meet-up" at a particular place while laying low about the >TCWUG until we better know how this MeetUp thing seeks to control >local publicity, membership, and activity. Something about this >MeetUp group has a smell about it.. >IMHO. Skepticism is a good thing. I'm not an active member of this (TCWUG) group, but do lurk and watch what's up. I've met the founders of "Meet-Up", examined the concept, and visited the site - I think its a good concept, run by good people, and very useful for connecting people who aren't already connected. I'm not sure if it will be a successful business model or how much value it has to group like TCWUG. The main value would probably be in helping to select a meeting location, but it might also help recruit new members. NOTE: I've not actually attended any "Meet-Up" events. I know that the Brewery Cafe, on West 7th is a meet-up location (businesses hoping to attract Meet-Up meetings pay for the service). The Brewery Cafe also has a wireless connection and a meeting space. (Disclosure: I know the owners and am planning some meetings there myself). For those who know Steve Clift, I'm pretty sure that he knows the "Meet-Up" people as well. I hope that this is helpful. If your ever interested in talking about E-Democracy, please let me know. I'd be happy to come to to a meeting or correspond in this list. Best wishes, -- Tim Erickson List Manager St. Paul Issues Forum http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/ Hamline Midway Resident 651-643-0722 tim@politalk.com St. Paul Links - http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/links.html "The St. Paul Issues Forum is a interactive e-mail discussion on important issues about St. Paul public policy. Participation is free and open to anyone. We currently have about 350 concerned citizens and community leaders subscribed to our discussion." _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From leif at utne.com Fri Apr 9 12:19:59 2004 From: leif at utne.com (Leif Utne) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:26 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Re: FW: Your Wi-Fi Meetup is cancelled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20D93ADB-8A4A-11D8-916A-000A95DB3176@utne.com> I can vouch for MeetUp as well. It's actually a very cool model. They provide free tools for people to self-organize and publicize their meetups on any topic. The only catch is that you have to choose from their list of approved venues, which includes many coffee shops, bars, book stores and restaurants in the Twin Cities. They make most of their money by charging the venues to be listed. And yeah, it was the primary grassroots organizing tool -- besides his official blog -- for Howard Dean's (not John Dean) presidential campaign. I agree with Tim that it'd be a good tool for TCWUG, because (a) its search and listing tools could help us to attract new members, and (b) its simple auto-reminder emails could help boost turnout among our core membership. -- Leif Utne Online Senior Editor, Utne Magazine Co-coordinator, Let's Talk America 612.338.5040 x348 www.utne.com www.letstalkamerica.org -- _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From benmgroup at earthlink.net Sun Apr 11 11:50:34 2004 From: benmgroup at earthlink.net (Ben Nelson) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:26 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] TCWUG meeting Tuesday! Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From tim at politalk.com Tue Apr 13 08:41:35 2004 From: tim at politalk.com (Tim Erickson) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:26 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Wireless Drive-Thru at McDonalds? In-Reply-To: <20D93ADB-8A4A-11D8-916A-000A95DB3176@utne.com> References: <20D93ADB-8A4A-11D8-916A-000A95DB3176@utne.com> Message-ID: This one caught me off guard! :-) ================================================= McDonald's to offer wireless Internet in dining rooms, drive-throughs http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4719151.html April 13 "DALLAS -- McDonald's Corp. has chosen Wayport Inc. to provide wireless Internet service in dining rooms and drive-through windows at several thousand of its U.S. restaurants. Wayport officials called it the biggest single deal yet to create wireless Internet ``hot spots.'' " ================================================= -- Tim Erickson List Manager St. Paul Issues Forum http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/ Hamline Midway Resident 651-643-0722 tim@politalk.com St. Paul Links - http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/links.html "The St. Paul Issues Forum is a interactive e-mail discussion on important issues about St. Paul public policy. Participation is free and open to anyone. We currently have about 350 concerned citizens and community leaders subscribed to our discussion." _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From jeff at digitalguy.net Tue Apr 13 08:58:14 2004 From: jeff at digitalguy.net (Jeffrey Lehman) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:27 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Wireless Drive-Thru at McDonalds? In-Reply-To: References: <20D93ADB-8A4A-11D8-916A-000A95DB3176@utne.com> Message-ID: <53155.128.101.36.205.1081864694.squirrel@www.digitalguy.net> McDonalds has had wireless for awhile now in certain areas. Check out http://www.mcdwireless.com/ for more information. Jeff Lehman > > This one caught me off guard! > > :-) > > ================================================= > > McDonald's to offer wireless Internet in dining rooms, drive-throughs > http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4719151.html > April 13 > > "DALLAS -- McDonald's Corp. has chosen Wayport Inc. to provide > wireless Internet service in dining rooms and drive-through windows > at several thousand of its U.S. restaurants. > > Wayport officials called it the biggest single deal yet to create > wireless Internet ``hot spots.'' " > > ================================================= > > > -- > Tim Erickson > List Manager > St. Paul Issues Forum > http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/ > Hamline Midway Resident > 651-643-0722 > tim@politalk.com > > St. Paul Links - http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/links.html > > "The St. Paul Issues Forum is a interactive e-mail discussion on > important issues about St. Paul public policy. Participation is free > and open to anyone. We currently have about 350 concerned citizens > and community leaders subscribed to our discussion." > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota > http://www.tcwug.org > tcwug-list@tcwug.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list > _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From plmnwater at yahoo.com Tue Apr 13 08:57:29 2004 From: plmnwater at yahoo.com (Dave W.) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:27 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Wireless Drive-Thru at McDonalds? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040413135730.77022.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> Is Wayport's access sold at the same price all over? I was staying in a hotel in Boston last week, and they had Wayport access for $10 a day. Seemed expensive to me, especially since there was a mall across the street with much cheaper wifi access. --- Tim Erickson wrote: > > This one caught me off guard! > > :-) > > ================================================= > > McDonald's to offer wireless Internet in dining rooms, drive-throughs > http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4719151.html > April 13 > > "DALLAS -- McDonald's Corp. has chosen Wayport Inc. to provide > wireless Internet service in dining rooms and drive-through windows > at several thousand of its U.S. restaurants. > > Wayport officials called it the biggest single deal yet to create > wireless Internet ``hot spots.'' " > > ================================================= > > > -- > Tim Erickson > List Manager > St. Paul Issues Forum > http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/ > Hamline Midway Resident > 651-643-0722 > tim@politalk.com > > St. Paul Links - http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/links.html > > "The St. Paul Issues Forum is a interactive e-mail discussion on > important issues about St. Paul public policy. Participation is free > and open to anyone. We currently have about 350 concerned citizens > and community leaders subscribed to our discussion." > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota > http://www.tcwug.org > tcwug-list@tcwug.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From sulrich at botwerks.org Tue Apr 13 23:21:54 2004 From: sulrich at botwerks.org (steve ulrich) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:27 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Wireless Drive-Thru at McDonalds? In-Reply-To: <20040413135730.77022.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040413135730.77022.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040414042154.GA2712@botwerks.org> when last we saw our hero (Tuesday, Apr 13, 2004), Dave W. was madly tapping out: > Is Wayport's access sold at the same price all over? I was staying > in a hotel in Boston last week, and they had Wayport access for $10 > a day. Seemed expensive to me, especially since there was a mall > across the street with much cheaper wifi access. wayport offers a reasonably priced all-you-can-eat package that works in hotels/airports/hotspots, etc. they also offer wired/wireless connectivity in many hotels in the pay as you go format. i've most consistently seen 9.95 until checkout the next day as their going rate. depending on your usage patterns it might make sense to buy the all-you-can eat option. $3/2 hours seems pretty reasonable for an incremental package. how much time can you spend at a McDonalds anyway? ;-) > > This one caught me off guard! > > > > :-) > > > > ================================================= > > > > McDonald's to offer wireless Internet in dining rooms, drive-throughs > > http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4719151.html > > April 13 > > > > "DALLAS -- McDonald's Corp. has chosen Wayport Inc. to provide > > wireless Internet service in dining rooms and drive-through windows > > at several thousand of its U.S. restaurants. > > > > Wayport officials called it the biggest single deal yet to create > > wireless Internet ``hot spots.'' " > > > > ================================================= > > { snipped - misc .signatures } -- steve ulrich sulrich@botwerks.org PGP: 8D0B 0EE9 E700 A6CF ABA7 AE5F 4FD4 07C9 133B FAFC _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From jima at beer.tclug.org Wed Apr 14 08:54:53 2004 From: jima at beer.tclug.org (Jima) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:27 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Wireless Drive-Thru at McDonalds? In-Reply-To: <20040414042154.GA2712@botwerks.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, steve ulrich wrote: > depending on your usage patterns it might make sense to buy the > all-you-can eat option. $3/2 hours seems pretty reasonable for an > incremental package. how much time can you spend at a McDonalds > anyway? ;-) Depends on if you have kids, and the McDonalds has a Playland/PlayPlace. Jima _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From sulrich at botwerks.org Wed Apr 14 09:05:42 2004 From: sulrich at botwerks.org (steve ulrich) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:27 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Wireless Drive-Thru at McDonalds? In-Reply-To: References: <20040414042154.GA2712@botwerks.org> Message-ID: <20040414140542.GA12496@botwerks.org> when last we saw our hero (Wednesday, Apr 14, 2004), Jima was madly tapping out: > On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, steve ulrich wrote: > > depending on your usage patterns it might make sense to buy the > > all-you-can eat option. $3/2 hours seems pretty reasonable for an > > incremental package. how much time can you spend at a McDonalds > > anyway? ;-) > > Depends on if you have kids, and the McDonalds has a > Playland/PlayPlace. a very good point. -- steve ulrich sulrich@botwerks.org PGP: 8D0B 0EE9 E700 A6CF ABA7 AE5F 4FD4 07C9 133B FAFC _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From Paul.Gilbertson at Lawson.com Wed Apr 14 11:58:08 2004 From: Paul.Gilbertson at Lawson.com (Paul Gilbertson) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:27 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Wireless McDonalds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001f01c42241$aca0bb50$2a01d20a@gilby2go> If the kids are happy, days can be spent at Macs... _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From sulrich at botwerks.org Wed Apr 14 15:51:40 2004 From: sulrich at botwerks.org (steve ulrich) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:27 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] linksys adds "hotspot in a box" to router Message-ID: <20040414205139.GA22986@botwerks.org> interesting development in the linksys platforms. http://www.internetwk.com/breakingNews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=18901427 http://www.linksys.com/press/press.asp?prid=151 -- steve ulrich sulrich@botwerks.org PGP: 8D0B 0EE9 E700 A6CF ABA7 AE5F 4FD4 07C9 133B FAFC _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From tcwug.list at slushpupie.com Thu Apr 22 10:22:30 2004 From: tcwug.list at slushpupie.com (Jay Kline) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:27 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] DWL-520 H/W E1 Message-ID: <20040422152230.GA1395@slushpupie.com> I picked up a DWL-520 (H/W E1) cheap, and am trying to get it working in Linux. This is way more of a challenge than I expected.. has anyone had any luck with it? Jay -- Jay Kline http://www.slushpupie.com _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From kaze0010 at umn.edu Thu Apr 22 14:42:29 2004 From: kaze0010 at umn.edu (Haudy Kazemi) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:27 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] DWL-520 H/W E1 Message-ID: <200404221942.i3MJgTvA021483@challenge.software.umn.edu> On 22 Apr 2004, Jay Kline wrote: > I picked up a DWL-520 (H/W E1) cheap, and am trying to get it working in > Linux. This is way more of a challenge than I expected.. has anyone had > any luck with it? > > Jay > > -- > Jay Kline > http://www.slushpupie.com Hello Two ideas 1. read http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/153297 2. look for the NDIS wrapper that some folks are writing for Linux. (There is another NDIS driver wrapper for FreeBSD.) It takes the regular Windows NDIS driver and wraps it so you can use it from inside Linux. http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=NDISulator -Haudy Kazemi _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From nkras at visi.com Thu Apr 29 08:38:12 2004 From: nkras at visi.com (Neal Krasnoff) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:27 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Wireless on the National Mall Message-ID: http://www.openpark.net/ Neal _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list