http://b1tsh1fter.blogspot.ca/2015/04/scalable-mesh-network-wifi-1.html On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com> wrote: > it doesn't look like the rotary 4 way test i live my life by isn't showing > up. here is a link if you are interested. > http://www.rhhif.org/FourWayTest.cfm > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> The 4-Way Test >> Of the things we think, say or do: >> >> >> Is it the TRUTH? >> Is it FAIR to all concerned? >> Will it build GOODWILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS? >> Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned? >> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Ryan Coleman their website was down as i had talked to them on the >>> phone and they told me. you seem to be angry about something. would you >>> care to elaborate on your attack? you seem to be against the idea of a >>> think tank. before the internet i used to buy a case of beer and go to a >>> mechanics shop and learn how to swap out engines and such. so much more >>> work than looking on the internet. i have no desire to be anon. i merely >>> suggest that people, not everyone is like you, seem to care about privacy. >>> i appreciate your response, but i have to say you sound like you are being >>> a dick and almost sound ignorant of the ideas that i have. curious, what >>> did you do before the internet, where you a troll then too? >>> >>> I have spent several hours reading about and i can tell that there is so >>> much out there and in many different directions. my ideas are leading >>> me to some more ideas. open existence. a group similar to tclug to >>> answer questions from how to start a fire with 2 sticks to how to put >>> power back into the grid. i seen a man working in his garage and i >>> thought there is a man who can do something by himself without relying >>> someone else to do it for him. what if i had a disk full of free and >>> openly distributable information on how to make generator (a piece of >>> wire and a magnet isn't difficult to understand), how to farm, how to >>> build a $50 underground house , etc,; basically a disk full how to not >>> rely on the value or the dollar, while allowing you to put electric into >>> the local grid, food into the local area, mesh communication using >>> your existing radio/cell phone. less big bank and more community. >>> (yeah, i pulled out the conspiracy theory card -ryan you >>> going to run with this?) >>> a group of people who care about community and people, when the power >>> goes out the local generators feed into the network. when >>> phones are out mesh keeps communications going. >>> Think like a Rotarian here people. not everyone is a recluse troll type, >>> many people want to go out of their homes and comfort zones >>> and communicate with like minded people and try and improve the lives >>> of people (rich/poor young/old am kindergarten/ pm kindergarten) >>> That is what research does to me. i think in terms of people, not money >>> or power. >>> >>> The 4-Way Test >>> >>> Of the things we think, say or do: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. >>> >>> Is it the TRUTH? >>> 2. >>> >>> Is it FAIR to all concerned? >>> 3. >>> >>> Will it build GOODWILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS? >>> 4. >>> >>> Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned? >>> >>> I am not against harsh answers, even though they discourage me from >>> trying to do good, i will play along though. i hope you (my tclug peers) >>> understand if i get a little rude at times when i am discouraged. my >>> apologies if i upset anyone. i will do my best to separate content with >>> paragraphs. i am putting random ideas on tclug. connect mesh with linux >>> here: http://project-byzantium.org/ connect tclug with community and >>> making the world a better place for everyone; read the threads, we do that >>> here. >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman at cwis.biz> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> it wouldn't have to be anon i just assume that is a concern to people. >>>> granted i have a limited understanding of mesh, but that doesn't mean that >>>> it can't be imagined in a different light. the general idea is when >>>> you hook up and are given an ip address you could be given alerts. how you >>>> get these alerts and whether or not there is hardware on the node/router >>>> unit in your home is what the question is. >>>> lets say the sirens go off, yes the air raid sirens are our alert >>>> system out here, and the fire dept volunteers are up and running. lets say >>>> the sirens are out due to power loss. >>>> >>>> >>>> Actually that’s the case everywhere in this fine country. We just >>>> called them tornado sirens but they’re classified as “civilian alert >>>> sirens” but I digress. And if they are without power (because the required >>>> generator [2 I think?] is dead then they send someone to fix that and get >>>> it back up. When the CAS are without power that’s a liability for the >>>> county and they tend to give them first attention to get fixed which is why >>>> most municipalities test them more than the one day a month that Hennepin >>>> County tests them. I know Olmsted tests theirs every Wednesday morning with >>>> a growl test. I also know that Appleton, Wisconsin, fires theirs at 1pm >>>> every weekday. YMMV. >>>> >>>> the fireman have a node and it alerts them according to the sign in >>>> they used that had required them to choose which alerts to get or whether >>>> or not to get them at all. teacher is at school and ships out homework. a >>>> child at home receives alerts due to the sign in system which makes you >>>> choose which alerts to receive or whether to receive them at all. the city >>>> has a meeting and someone wants to watch but doesn't want the city hall >>>> people to know for whatever reason; idk there could be a reason to be >>>> anonymous. >>>> >>>> >>>> I don’t see how this analogy equates… text alerts are better one - the >>>> CAS are there for all to hear whether they want to or not. Sometimes >>>> they’re late, sometimes not. >>>> >>>> DYK you can opt out of the amber alerts and weather alerts on your cell >>>> phone? Ahyep. https://www.google.com/?q=opt%20out%20of%20amber%20al >>>> erts%20on%20mobile >>>> >>>> i am so busy right now that i am not doing my due diligence >>>> >>>> >>>> Paragraphs might help. :) >>>> >>>> but i don't want to forget a good idea or sit and think about a good >>>> idea when it is in reality not a good idea. as i wrap my head around this i >>>> realize that there is nothing written in stone, not all ideas are going to >>>> work, and that there is still much for me to learn. >>>> >>>> >>>> If you want true anonymity either use TOR or GOML, unplug your >>>> computer, take the battery out of your smart phone and sell your car. This >>>> isn’t the 1850s anymore and we’ve had a long time to get used to the >>>> changes. >>>> >>>> School talk is taking most of my time right now. and this clover pos >>>> system. i did security research on it for a business out here. while i was >>>> trying to learn about it their website went down. i am like wow they can't >>>> handle html but they are providing a secure pos system? but mostly the >>>> school talk is my focus for the next week here. i will offer more sound >>>> (but still odd) ideas in the near future. >>>> >>>> >>>> You’d be amazed how often you think someone’s website is down and, in >>>> reality, your link to their host’s system is down. I don’t want a product >>>> that spends thousands of dollars a year on a website that glitters in the >>>> sunlight if they have a solid product and stand behind it. >>>> >>>> What did you do before we had internet? :) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Iznogoud <iznogoud at nobelware.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 02:02:53PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > MESH networks do not have AP capabilities. They are nodes that are >>>>> designed to allow for self-healing and then, from there, you have your APs. >>>>> That’s the proper design, anything more complicated would probably either >>>>> fail in a short period of time or be very overwhelmed. >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> What this person said. >>>>> >>>>> There is no need for anyone to have any more accounts... This is >>>>> purely an >>>>> access mechanism that is "self healing" (in lack of a better phrase). >>>>> And >>>>> there can certainly be limits that are put on access so that abuse is >>>>> kept >>>>> to a minimum. >>>>> >>>>> Accounts go with account/service providers. Use "twitter" for example >>>>> and >>>>> have the mesh be a medium. No? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>> >>>> >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20160829/7497be76/attachment-0001.html>