Sandwich, I think you will greatly benefit from looking for groups in meetup.com and find more topics that seem well-aligned with your interests (which are many). I follow a few local groups on there, like the Penguins. I personally prefer to keep off-topic subjects short. Like, for example, any sustainability discussion is only tangent to anything Linux or TC. I hope this makes sense. I think the mesh discussion was quite tangential to this list and, clearly, it has de-railed. I also echo the sentiment of trying to use an email client that respects your formatting. I use Mutt and I am typing in "vi" in a terminal right now. That is why you may see my emails look like truncated text, but I try to keep them as organized as possible. With much respect.