*i think calling someone a thief by implying piracy is criminal.* i think that is clear. if by attacking you mean pointing out when someone is randomly throwing accusations about people and criminal intent for setting up a slack account. do you not see that? do you all not see that when people are allowed to troll that it effects everyone? i have been on this list for over 10 years. i can see why there is no traffic on here anymore. i could stay and help put rude condescending and outright criminal behavior in check. but why, you are all adults. i would ask for a consensus on this but i would guess if people speak up they would just get flamed and accused of piracy or some other super random accusation. i wonder what percentage of this list are decent caring people? anyone care to speak up before i move on to other places? why am i attacking chuck, bist du blint? On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Chuck Cole <cncole at earthlink.net> wrote: > I was just "subscribed" to SLACK without my doing anything, they got my > name wrong, and I have no way to unsubscribe or participate. > > I'm one of the earliest members here, and have seen other attempts to > commandeer the group and change its nature somehow. > > "Sandwhich Eyes" seems to be a newbie here - on his own podium, and > missing a few clues. > > We had no discussion of SLACK here, and no proposed basis for another > group using different software or leadership. > This appears to be just-another-piracy-attempt of some sort. > > Has there been any discussion or preface for this? My search showed > nothing. > > > Chuck > > ------------------------------ > *From:* tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn- > linux.org] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Coleman > *Sent:* Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:45 AM > *To:* TCLUG Mailing List > *Subject:* Re: [tclug-list] FW: john.trammell at gmail.com invited you to > TCLUGon Slack > > I think you’ve gone way over the edge on this one, brother. > > We are all free peoples to choose how we wish. But why are you attacking > Chuck on his attempt to open a discussion? > > > > On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:01 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com> > wrote: > > Let me make a few assumptions here. > someone offers you an invite to a list. > from that you, chuck cole, call him a thief. > the list has low volume because people who try to do good things get beat > down, which is the opposite of support. > i personally would like to know how you ended up calling him a thief. why > did you do that chuck? what is going through your mind? you may not have > said it in your head when you wrote it, but clearly your predicate logic is > indicative of exactly that. > no one wants to get beat down by trolls. ever. your mom would be > disappointed in you, or she should be. you should let her know how you > treat people. i am disappointed in you. > if you had a question about linux as a newbie would you ask it in this > environment? > here is what i propose. > this new list you were invited to was started to give this list a fresh > start and to try and revitalize a list to provide people with answers to > their questions and not be afraid to open their email. seriously just > ignore things that come in your precious email box if you are offended. > when he did this he was either called a thief; i have no idea why. it is > even more confusing that no one calls you out on this. you may even be > implying that he is a terrorist (if you meant privacy;) not sure where that > would have come from either. tor is a navy project released to the public > to help hide their traffic. so privacy isn't a bad thing, especially when > it helps to protect our country. (put that in their because ryan had > suggested tor in an old post (not saying anything bad about ryan so please > don't be offended, only trying to point out that tor provides privacy and > it is fresh in my mind) and while tor is neat and helping our government is > good, i can't handle the latency nor do i encrypt my stuff as i have lost > too much stuff from hard drive errors (no i don't use raid as i am poor. > simple hard drive backup on occasion and family photos get saved off site > ever 6 months or so.) so i don't use it. I feel like i need to explain > myself so no one assumes terrible things about me. surely, it isn't out of > line to assume that you don't know what you are talking about or how to > spell privacy instead of piracy. honestly, neither make any sense other > than as a means to beat someone down. > > and for those of you who let this man abuse a fellow tclug user; shame on > you... stand up to cyber bullying or people will think that it is alright > and will escalate to the point that a list will go from 15 or so emails a > day to 1 or 2 a week which mostly contain dissention; not all of which is > good. that is where all the newbies have gone . This list is now for > questions in which you are passionate enough about to push through the BS. > > i hope the list that you were invited to has a chance to flourish and > grow. Hopefully, we can get more people interested in linux and maintain > their interest with positive discussions and support. or not, whatever > just don't let people be abusive and get away with it on either list. > please. > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> TCLUG is an incredible entity. It is and has been for a long time. Every >> time I ask a simple question and I get More answers and direction than I >> could hope for. My last question which has been posted in many forums has >> yet to compare to the answers from this TCLUG list. >> What do you mean by piracy? no one needs piracy; piracy means stealing >> right? Did you mean privacy? Yes we need privacy. I don't want to poop in >> front of people; I do still need some level of privacy. >> TCLUG is a true cross section of people from so many backgrounds. The >> willingness to volunteer knowledge is unsurpassed. That is why I refuse to >> let go even though I am some distance from you all at this point. >> >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Chuck Cole <cncole at earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> TCLUG isn't broke, IMHO. Do we need piracy or whatever? >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* feedback at slack.com [mailto:feedback at slack.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:48 PM >>> *Subject:* john.trammell at gmail.com invited you to TCLUG on Slack >>> >>> <https://www.slack.com/> >>> Join TCLUG on Slack >>> >>> john.trammell at gmail.com uses Slack, the messaging app for teams, and >>> has invited you to join the Slack team *TCLUG*. >>> Join Team >>> <https://tclug.slack.com/x-78468710512-80256314498/invite/ODAyNDk0OTQ2NzktMTQ3Mzk2ODg2MC01Mzc0ZWQxNTM4> >>> >>> You may copy/paste this link into your browser: >>> https://tclug.slack.com/x-78468710512-80256314498/invite/ODA >>> yNDk0OTQ2NzktMTQ3Mzk2ODg2MC01Mzc0ZWQxNTM4 >>> >>> Have a question or need help? 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