trolls backing up trolls....

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com>
wrote:

> *i think calling someone a thief by implying piracy is criminal.* i think
> that is clear.
> if by attacking you mean pointing out when someone is randomly throwing
> accusations about people and criminal intent for setting up a slack
> account. do you not see that? do you all not see that when people are
> allowed to troll that it effects everyone? i have been on this list for
> over 10 years. i can see why there is no traffic on here anymore. i could
> stay and help put rude condescending and outright criminal behavior in
> check. but why, you are all adults.
> i would ask for a consensus on this but i would guess if people speak up
> they would just get flamed and accused of piracy or some other super random
> accusation.
> i wonder what percentage of this list are decent caring people?  anyone
> care to speak up before i move on to other places? why am i attacking
> chuck, bist du blint?
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Chuck Cole <cncole at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> I was just "subscribed" to SLACK without my doing anything, they got my
>> name wrong, and I have no way to unsubscribe or participate.
>>
>> I'm one of the earliest members here, and have seen other attempts to
>> commandeer the group and change its nature somehow.
>>
>> "Sandwhich Eyes" seems to be a newbie here - on his own podium, and
>> missing a few clues.
>>
>> We had no discussion of SLACK here, and no proposed basis for another
>> group using different software or leadership.
>> This appears to be just-another-piracy-attempt of some sort.
>>
>> Has there been any discussion or preface for this?  My search showed
>> nothing.
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-
>> linux.org] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Coleman
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:45 AM
>> *To:* TCLUG Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [tclug-list] FW: john.trammell at gmail.com invited you to
>> TCLUGon Slack
>>
>> I think you’ve gone way over the edge on this one, brother.
>>
>> We are all free peoples to choose how we wish. But why are you attacking
>> Chuck on his attempt to open a discussion?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:01 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Let me make a few assumptions here.
>> someone offers you an invite to a list.
>> from that you, chuck cole, call him a thief.
>> the list has low volume because people who try to do good things get beat
>> down, which is the opposite of support.
>> i personally would like to know how you ended up calling him a thief. why
>> did you do that chuck? what is going through your mind? you may not have
>> said it in your head when you wrote it, but clearly your predicate logic is
>> indicative of exactly that.
>> no one wants to get beat down by trolls. ever. your mom would be
>> disappointed in you, or she should be. you should let her know how you
>> treat people. i am disappointed in you.
>> if you had a question about linux as a newbie would you ask it in this
>> environment?
>> here is what i propose.
>> this new list you were invited to was started to give this list a fresh
>> start and to try and revitalize a list to provide people with answers to
>> their questions and not be afraid to open their email. seriously just
>> ignore things that come in your precious email box if you are offended.
>> when he did this he was either called a thief; i have no idea why.  it is
>> even more confusing that no one calls you out on this.  you may even be
>> implying that he is a terrorist (if you meant privacy;) not sure where that
>> would have come from either. tor is a navy project released to the public
>> to help hide their traffic. so privacy isn't a bad thing, especially when
>> it helps to protect our country. (put that in their because ryan had
>> suggested tor in an old post (not saying anything bad about ryan so please
>> don't be offended, only trying to point out that tor provides privacy and
>> it is fresh in my mind) and while tor is neat and helping our government is
>> good, i can't handle the latency nor do i encrypt my stuff as i have lost
>> too much stuff from hard drive errors (no i don't use raid as i am poor.
>> simple hard drive backup on occasion and family photos get saved off site
>> ever 6 months or so.) so i don't use it. I feel like i need to explain
>> myself so no one assumes terrible things about me. surely, it isn't out of
>> line to assume that you don't know what you are talking about or how to
>> spell privacy instead of piracy. honestly, neither make any sense other
>> than as a means to beat someone down.
>>
>> and for those of you who let this man abuse a fellow tclug user; shame on
>> you...  stand up to cyber bullying or people will think that it is alright
>> and will escalate to the point that a list will go from 15 or so emails a
>> day to 1 or 2 a week which mostly contain dissention; not all of which is
>> good. that is where all the newbies have gone . This list is now for
>> questions in which you are passionate enough about to push through the BS.
>>
>> i hope the list that you were invited to has a chance to flourish and
>> grow. Hopefully, we can get more people interested in linux and maintain
>> their interest with positive discussions and support. or not, whatever
>> just don't let people be abusive and get away with it on either list.
>> please.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> TCLUG is an incredible entity. It is and has been for a long time. Every
>>> time I ask a simple question and I get More answers and direction than I
>>> could hope for. My last question which has been posted in many forums has
>>> yet to compare to the answers from this TCLUG list.
>>> What do you mean by piracy? no one needs piracy; piracy means stealing
>>> right? Did you mean privacy? Yes we need privacy. I don't want to poop in
>>> front of people; I do still need some level of privacy.
>>> TCLUG is a true cross section of people from so many backgrounds. The
>>> willingness to volunteer knowledge is unsurpassed. That is why I refuse to
>>> let go even though I am some distance from you all at this point.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Chuck Cole <cncole at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> TCLUG isn't broke, IMHO.  Do we need piracy or whatever?
>>>>
>>>>
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