Regarding the assertion that companies don't want to know about security
vulnerabilities:

Thirty-one percent of executives surveyed by Jupiter Research cited low
network security as the number one barrier to deployment of WLANs, their top
concern centering on rogue users accessing the corporate network from
outside the corporation.

It would seem that at least some companies are worried about wireless
security.

Mike Ellsworth
StratVantage Consulting, LLC
Helping Successful Companies Make Winning Technology Decisions
8273 Westwood Hills Curve
St. Louis Park, MN  55426
952-525-1584
mellsworth at stratvantage.com
www.StratVantage.com
www.TheWiFiGuys.com

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Ben Franklin, ~1784
-----Original Message-----
From: tcwug-list-admin at tcwug.org [mailto:tcwug-list-admin at tcwug.org]On
Behalf Of Mike Ellsworth
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 12:22 AM
To: tcwug-list at tcwug.org
Subject: RE: [TCWUG] Re: Why secure your WLAN?

"Scary enough, the CERT BOF at
usenix 2001 the #1 thing that scared a few of the guys there was
electricity control computer networks and their exposure to the
internet. (from their own consulting experience)"

What's even scarier is that Windows is making inroads in the SCADA space!
That's worse than putting it in charge of a luxury automobile (BMW 745)!

Mike Ellsworth
StratVantage Consulting, LLC
Helping Successful Companies Make Winning Technology Decisions
8273 Westwood Hills Curve
St. Louis Park, MN  55426
952-525-1584
mellsworth at stratvantage.com
www.StratVantage.com
www.TheWiFiGuys.com

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Ben Franklin, ~1784
-----Original Message-----
From: tcwug-list-admin at tcwug.org [mailto:tcwug-list-admin at tcwug.org]On
Behalf Of Scott Dier
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:43 PM
To: tcwug-list at tcwug.org
Subject: [TCWUG] Re: Why secure your WLAN?

On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 16:55, Matthew S. Hallacy wrote:
>        "IT WORKS FINE FOR ME, AND THATS ALL THAT MATTERS"

Thats usually a few minutes before their ISP disconnects them because
their machine is running (a legitmately or worm installed) wide open
winproxy. :)

The problem being, is that abuse will eventually catch up to these, and
those people will bear mroe trouble than its worth.  Someday, however, I
expect people to figure it out, not people evangalizing to non-techies
about it.  I doubt they care, yet.

It was funny to see the speculation on /. about the worm causing the
power outage today.  Someday there will be an emergency caused by a
widespread security issue that people end up ignoring, and they will
start to learn why its important to care.  Scary enough, the CERT BOF at
usenix 2001 the #1 thing that scared a few of the guys there was
electricity control computer networks and their exposure to the
internet. (from their own consulting experience)  Of course, this was
'pre 9/11', but yikes.

Thanks!

--
Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org> KC0OBS http://www.ringworld.org/


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