How about simple things, like Email support for at least "reserializing" 
units that get corrupted cause of the problem Lucent (Ascend) created 
themselves with Pipeline units from SN 722xx-8xxx that require a 1 meg 
overwrite to recover passwords, and often loose their serial number in the 
process?

Or support from the Web Page (within a couple months, much less the 2 days 
quoted) for IPSec/Firewall Updates. (Sorry Jan at Lucent, last updates I 
had to submit 2x's and took almost 2 months to get the the "free" features 
codes).

It's all a money thing for Lucent, they are loosing tons of it, and as a 
result of their attitude (and lack of support) for Livingston and Ascend 
products which they bought up legit companies, giving good support, free 
and otherwise. I can see contracts for hardware problems, but can't imagine 
paying $200 for support just so I can get the hashcodes to reenable my unit 
that was trashed out due to bad flash/firmware upload procedures that 
change with every other production unit.

Nuff said, and hope everyone is having a great Holiday, but I just had to 
vent when Lucent even gave up allowing use of "support at ascend.com" for 
minor problems, and redirecting that all users should now visit ESight and 
get a contract.

At 08:53 AM 9/3/2001 +1000, you wrote:

> > >
> > >     TAC or your Reseller can help you with that if you require.
> >
> > Leave it to a Lucent employee to force you have a support contract...
> >
>
>         Hi Ricky,
>
>         Our support is fee based. Contracted customes
>         get the choice of our time :-
>
>         If I was spending all my time helping out
>         people on Ascend-users, I wouldn't have a job.
>
>         Thanks for the follow up with the OID strings.
>
>                 Greg
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